[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Interesting thread! Lots of fear expressed that experience has, over and over again, disproved.

A few years back my wife and I, both holders of permits-to-carry, attended a Second Amendment rally on the grounds of the State Capitol in St. Paul, MN. Several hundred of us there and most were carrying, many openly (which is legal in Minnesota). Besides the exhibits, there were some pretty well-known speakers, both state and national.

There were cops there, too. Several uniformed LEOs were ringing the rally--all facing AWAY from the attendees. There was a cop among the attendees too; a St. Paul uniformed officer who was having just as good a time as the rest of us, checking out the exhibits and passing the time of day with attendees and presenters.

It occurred to me (and to probably most of the other attendees) that what we SAW there was diametrically opposite to what we had HEARD so often from various sources about the dangers of people carrying firearms. Several hundred armed citizens--and most of the cops, with the exception of the one enjoying the rally with the rest of us, had their backs turned. THEY knew of the danger--and it wasn't with us attendees.

If you were on a shark sighting I doubt if many people would jump in the water when you yelled "Shark!". Or that you get many gun nuts running into gun shows and emptying their weapons.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Or that you get many gun nuts running into gun shows and emptying their weapons.

There's no better evidence of the need for strong gun control legislation, than sitting in the parking lot of a gun show and just watching.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

There's no better evidence of the need for strong gun control legislation, than sitting in the parking lot of a gun show and just watching.

I had a crush on a beautiful daughter of a gun nut who lived about one mile from us across a meadow in Reno, Nevada. I would have to cross a ditch and barbed wire to see the lady as well. And there were dogs in the neighborhood.


The stunning woman invited me on a horseback ride as she was borrowing a horse from a different neighbor. I rode behind her and she seemed to know just what I was thinking and said if I could get to her that night.... Her father was home from his truck driving gig though. I chickened out that night but ran into her again when she lived on campus at the University of Nevada, Reno. She married a rancher eventually. I hope she does not read Talk of the Villages, though.


She had made it a point to show me all the hurdles I would have to leap to get to her including the bunch of rifles on her father's living room wall, the barbed wire, the dog, and the ditch. Not to mention that very dark meadow.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

There's no better evidence of the need for strong gun control legislation, than sitting in the parking lot of a gun show and just watching.

Pray tell... What happens?

I've been to dozens of gun shows and nothing nefarious has ever happened in the parking lot.

Once, someone was arrested for trying to make a "Straw Purchase", but that was applauded by all in attendance... But that's all I've ever experienced...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I had a crush on a beautiful daughter of a gun nut who lived about one mile from us across a meadow in Reno, Nevada. I would have to cross a ditch and barbed wire to see the lady as well. And there were dogs in the neighborhood.


The stunning woman invited me on a horseback ride as she was borrowing a horse from a different neighbor. I rode behind her and she seemed to know just what I was thinking and said if I could get to her that night.... Her father was home from his truck driving gig though. I chickened out that night but ran into her again when she lived on campus at the University of Nevada, Reno. She married a rancher eventually. I hope she does not read Talk of the Villages, though.


She had made it a point to show me all the hurdles I would have to leap to get to her including the bunch of rifles on her father's living room wall, the barbed wire, the dog, and the ditch. Not to mention that very dark meadow.

Your continued use of the term "gun nut" is interesting...

[Decadeofdave]

I don't like open carry, so I renew my concealed carry as needed.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Decadeofdave

I don't like open carry, so I renew my concealed carry as needed.

As long as I don't have to see it, I applaud your excercising of your 2nd Amendment rights. I just don't want to have to see it. I think people who "need" to carry weapons out visibly and blatantly, if they're not law enforcement on duty, are creepy. The only upside to them, is that I know who to run away from.

[dewilson58]

My teacher told me, guns kill people.

I told her, my pencil failed the test.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

My teacher told me, guns kill people.

I told her, my pencil failed the test.

You probably would not want a pencil in a gun fight though.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Not deflecting; pointing out to the gun control proponents there are other weapons to commit violent acts that don't involve guns for the criminals that are hell-bent on doing so.

"Not delecting"? "Pointing out" other things to take the focus off the subject at hand is classic miss direction, like a magician waving one hand so you don't see what he is hiding in the other hand IS most definitely defecting!
"Well, what about", followed by insertion of something else to think about is a great indicator of deflection.
The simple reality is that humans have been committing acts of violence since the dawn of our existence and over millenia we have figured various methods and created tools to try to even the odds and make it easier. Guns are a cheap way for those who want to avoid facing the person you want to hurt/kill. Shoot them through a window, from across the street or from a rooftop. No confrontation. No blood. Very little exertion. Very impersonal. Just point and pull the trigger. No actual fighting/danger involved in the act. No special skills required, like in any martial arts.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

My teacher told me, guns kill people.

I told her, my pencil failed the test.

Teacher was wrong.! Actually, guns allow humans to kill other humans, quickly, efficiently, without the danger of confrontation that sticks, stones, knives or swords would involve. Kill anonymously, from a distance, from a hiding place. And, as a general rule, the human pulls a lever. The lever allows a hammer which strikes the detonation of a small explosion the pushes the bullet out of the gun. It is the bullet that kills people. Unless the gun is used to bludgeon the victim to death.

Hmm? Maybe guns aren't the problem. Don't ban guns just ban ammunition?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

If you were on a shark sighting I doubt if many people would jump in the water when you yelled "Shark!". Or that you get many gun nuts running into gun shows and emptying their weapons.

Many years ago, we were on a "shark experience " and when the sharks were sighted we all did jump in the water. Great fun actually. Very exciting

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Your continued use of the term "gun nut" is interesting...

It's a term of endearment. Like "Hon" or "Darling". 🫠😉

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

As long as I don't have to see it, I applaud your excercising of your 2nd Amendment rights. I just don't want to have to see it. I think people who "need" to carry weapons out visibly and blatantly, if they're not law enforcement on duty, are creepy. The only upside to them, is that I know who to run away from.

Agree!