[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by SHIBUMI

Visited the cemetery the other day. Noticed a tombstone that said, Jeb died from an accident, BUT, he had the right of way....

I'm'a calling B.S. on this. If you can't post a picture of the tombstone, I believe you neither visited a cemetery the other day nor noticed the aforementioned tombstone. In fact, I doubt any such tombstone exists that isn't "prank or joke" tombstone. Pics or it didn't happen!

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by SHIBUMI

Visited the cemetery the other day. Noticed a tombstone that said, Jeb died from an accident, BUT, he had the right of way.

Common sense right of way is as follows: If it's bigger than you IT has the right away. Pretty simple!

Walkers should give way to bikers, golf cars, small cars on the multi models paths.
Bikers should give way to golf cars and small cars on multi model paths.
Golf cars should give way to small cars on multi model paths.

Courtesy Kills! So it follows the bigger you are the less courtesy you need to allow. Cars should not stop to let bikers, golf cars, small cars thru the passage way at gates. Cars have the right of way(Big Theory) and besides, courtesy waves them thru as the gate on the other side is opening and the other car, unaware, comes close to hitting them.( big potential accident)

If you follow these simple rules you will never be Jebbed.

IF TRUE-who has a better sense of humor UP or DOWN.

[SHIBUMI]

I found no picture of God. Did he happen? Sometimes the message is more important than a picture........

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

I'm'a calling B.S. on this. If you can't post a picture of the tombstone, I believe you neither visited a cemetery the other day nor noticed the aforementioned tombstone. In fact, I doubt any such tombstone exists that isn't "prank or joke" tombstone. Pics or it didn't happen!

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by SHIBUMI

I found no picture of God. Did he happen? Sometimes the message is more important than a picture........

"A picture is worth a thousand words", so they say. What is no picture worth? Inquiring minds want to know!

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

I'm'a calling B.S. on this. If you can't post a picture of the tombstone, I believe you neither visited a cemetery the other day nor noticed the aforementioned tombstone. In fact, I doubt any such tombstone exists that isn't "prank or joke" tombstone. Pics or it didn't happen!

Personally, true or false, there is very likely a tombstone exists somewhere with a message on it that suggest the same message, that even if you are right, demanding your right could be "wrong" in the long run. Be safe!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Ksarracco

Golf carts should never have the right of way on roads with vehicles, AND at gates, please don’t be considerate. If, in your vehicle, you stop in slow traffic to allow a vehicle to cut in front of you for a left turn—-> there is a golf cart in the golf cart lane! If making a right hand turn in your vehicle—->golf carts need to stop.

QUOTE=Ksarracco;2409130]Golf carts should never have the right of way on roads with vehicles


I have hard time understanding that? But, I’m slow sometimes

If vehicle, (golf cart, bicycle, ect… ) in diamond lane last time I read it can’t cut them off turning right. I remember it saying you must allow enough room for them not cross into you path or fall in behind with turn signal on taking the diamond lane so vehicle in diamond can pass on right till you make you’re turn. I also think anybody turning left has to yield unless they’re turning arrow. Maybe that what you said?

[BPRICE1234]

I would like to know where the bicyclists should be riding. It seems they have access to multi modal, walking and bike path, diamond path and roads in general.

I have even seen where a group of 20 bikes will cover both lanes of Megisson.

Is there a courtesy where bicyclists shouldn't occupy everything? Most will not pull over no matter how slow they are going or how long a line behind them.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by BPRICE1234

I would like to know where the bicyclists should be riding. It seems they have access to multi modal, walking and bike path, diamond path and roads in general.

I have even seen where a group of 20 bikes will cover both lanes of Megisson.

Is there a courtesy where bicyclists shouldn't occupy everything? Most will not pull over no matter how slow they are going or how long a line behind them.

Bicycles are allowed most anywhere. Florida has statutes about occupying a single lane, staying close to the shoulder, and riding in groups. However, if those statutes are not enforced then they may as well not exist.

Not all cyclists ignore the laws but the ones who do tarnish the reputation of the rest.

[Grinchie]

Originally Posted by RICH1

entitlement is an Old Folks disease.... Respect no one, and do what you want.. Law & Order has flown the coop..

I’m not sure of that anymore. Young ones now seem to think hard work is demeaning. These
Old Folks worked their butts off & never questioned if there was a choice.

[CFrance]

How about this scenario: I am approaching the exit gate at the St. James gate. (I am on St. Charles, and my goal is the roundabout on the other side of the gate.) Three cars have entirely filled the space on the other side of the exit gate and cannot get onto the roundabout due to the amount of traffic. Therefore, I cannot get through the exit gate arm to the other side. There's no room.

I am NOT going to tie up the golf cart lane on the inside of that gate by waiting on it, just because I have the right-of-way. I will let the carts go through until there is enough space on the other side of the exit gate for me to fit while waiting to get into the roundabout.

It happens all the time, especially around lunch time. Right or wrong?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by CFrance

How about this scenario: I am approaching the exit gate at the St. James gate. (I am on St. Charles, and my goal is the roundabout on the other side of the gate.) Three cars have entirely filled the space on the other side of the exit gate and cannot get onto the roundabout due to the amount of traffic. Therefore, I cannot get through the exit gate arm to the other side. There's no room.

I am NOT going to tie up the golf cart lane on the inside of that gate by waiting on it, just because I have the right-of-way. I will let the carts go through until there is enough space on the other side of the exit gate for me to fit while waiting to get into the roundabout.

It happens all the time, especially around lunch time. Right or wrong?

That is the one scenario where I will pass in front of the car and thank him for waiting.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by CFrance

How about this scenario: I am approaching the exit gate at the St. James gate. (I am on St. Charles, and my goal is the roundabout on the other side of the gate.) Three cars have entirely filled the space on the other side of the exit gate and cannot get onto the roundabout due to the amount of traffic. Therefore, I cannot get through the exit gate arm to the other side. There's no room.

I am NOT going to tie up the golf cart lane on the inside of that gate by waiting on it, just because I have the right-of-way. I will let the carts go through until there is enough space on the other side of the exit gate for me to fit while waiting to get into the roundabout.

It happens all the time, especially around lunch time. Right or wrong?

There is a statute that states, essentially, that you may not enter an intersection if there is no room on the other side. It is illegal to block an intersection, and, although it is cars and carts, it is an intersection. More like blocking a crosswalk, which is illegal. Any bikes, carts or walkers still have to mind the cars coming in the gate and realize you may free to move at any moment. Technically, you still have the right of way, but everyone should be very cautious.

[Win1894]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Please cite the Florida statutes that say:
- You must completely leave the lane to pass a bicycle
- You must not pass on the right
- You cannot come within 3 feet of a pedestrian
- Anything at all about bicycles in both lanes
- Anything at all about the Florida statutes above (if any) applying off the public roadways (golf cart paths)

It is very, very easy to write, "IT'S THE LAW!" It is considerably harder to find statutes that do not exist.

Here is the statute you requested. 316.083 Overtaking and passing a vehicle, a bicycle or other nonmotorized vehicle, or an electric bicycle

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Win1894

Here is the statute you requested. 316.083 Overtaking and passing a vehicle, a bicycle or other nonmotorized vehicle, or an electric bicycle

3 feet separation when passing a bicycle. Sure. But mentions none of the items in my post.

What did you read in that statute that you believe applied to what I wrote?