[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

Wow, you must have got one of the bad ones. we passed inspection with minimal problems..

Read the post again.


They DID pass the (supposed) inspection.

Originally Posted by fw102807

He was amazed that the electrical and plumbing passed any kind of inspection.

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

Wow, you must have got one of the bad ones. we passed inspection with minimal problems..

These are items that would not be included in a home inspection when you purchase a house. As I stated they are only visible when you go to remodel and find out nothing lines up properly. They are not structural defects they are just shoddy workmanship in the finish details. That is why they do not have smooth walls and if you look at your baseboard trim I am sure you will find they used a lot of caulking to fill the gaps.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Tom53

Not that I'm cynical, but is it possible that all of these manufacturers "recommendations" are excessive, and are designed that way knowing that builders cannot live with them and still make money? Could this be a way of absolving themselves of any liability for product defects? Just wondering, not making a statement!

By George I think you've got it.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by fw102807

These are items that would not be included in a home inspection when you purchase a house. As I stated they are only visible when you go to remodel and find out nothing lines up properly. They are not structural defects they are just shoddy workmanship in the finish details. That is why they do not have smooth walls and if you look at your baseboard trim I am sure you will find they used a lot of caulking to fill the gaps.

I believe the caulking is used to seal and finish the baseboards to make them look nice.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Talking about the electrical panel--TV is the only place i've seen where the panel is mounted upside down--the main breaker is on the bottom--

Not "upside down", the main is located the closest to the entry point.

[Chatbrat]

In NJ ,it would not have passed inspection-every residential service that we did had the main on the top---- --also, they use a common piece pf pvc for all the runs--NJ inspectors would call that bundling and all the ampacities of the conductors would have to be derated--we left two blank spaces under the main for future surge protector installation

[dewilson58]

"Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore."

Jersey code allows service to enter the top or bottom of the box and related main switch. The key is having horizontal switches.

Florida code allows it as well.

Shocking.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by fw102807

When we bought our house we knew it was going to require work but my husband is a builder. He was amazed that the electrical and plumbing passed any kind of inspection. The panel box itself is upside down, the runs have no slack and the holes for the piping are not nearly lined up. The floors are not level the walls are not square the trim work is not mitered well and when he took the kitchen cabinets off the wall the majority of the screws were screwed into drywall with no reinforcement. They practically fell right off.

Our breaker box and electrical box is just fine and so are finishing details.

I just like to keep things straight. There are no true straight lines in nature or even in well built homes. In amazing and expensive homes you will find some things slightly out of square. I am not a builder, a builder's wife, an electrician or a plumber or their spouse, but we G's have had eleven houses built and this one here was the easiest of all. I think the two homes we had here were well built.

Originally Posted by dewilson58

"Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore."

Jersey code allows service to enter the top or bottom of the box and related main switch. The key is having horizontal switches.

Florida code allows it as well.

Shocking.

You are absolutely right we are not in Kansas anymore. Where we come from the walls are flat and smooth, they do not use window trim as baseboard molding and they do not need caulk to fill the gaps because there aren't any and our panel box was right side up. It is very different down here but this is where we have chosen to live so we are just fixing the things in our own house to meet our own standards.

[2BNTV]

[QUOTE=ColdNoMore;1565414]Maybe they will soon be building only round houses in TV, so that the process of 'cutting corners'...is totally complete.

:

Waiting two years for a house to be built in TV is following the Tesla model for building cars.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by fw102807

You are absolutely right we are not in Kansas anymore. Where we come from the walls are flat and smooth, they do not use window trim as baseboard molding and they do not need caulk to fill the gaps because there aren't any and our panel box was right side up. It is very different down here but this is where we have chosen to live so we are just fixing the things in our own house to meet our own standards.

Do you have pictures of the defects you mention? We owned a home in Hadley before buying the one we live in now. We have visited many homes here in TV as well.