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Old 10-11-2020, 01:16 PM
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Yes, we all know that, thanks for repeating the obvious. How effective masks are in an outside environment is unknown. The impact might be minimal. To suggest that a requirement to wear masks in the squares makes them safe is not based on any science. If you want to be safe, in an absolute sense, not by some percentage that is unknown, don’t go to the squares.


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No one ever said it prevents you from getting the virus. Scientists liken it to the swiss cheese model - layer one is social distance, layer two is wearing masks, layer three is washing hands, and layer four is Covid testing. All layers are important because each layer is not perfect.

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Old 10-11-2020, 01:54 PM
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Yes, we all know that, thanks for repeating the obvious. How effective masks are in an outside environment is unknown. The impact might be minimal. To suggest that a requirement to wear masks in the squares makes them safe is not based on any science. If you want to be safe, in an absolute sense, not by some percentage that is unknown, don’t go to the squares.
I'm getting a laugh out of the condescending mansplaining.. You are not an expert, although, judging by the number of virus related posts you've made, you seem to think so. The experts, the scientists do say that wearing masks makes you safer and that masks, combined with social distancing, make one safer yet. And that being outdoors makes you even more safe. Nothing is 100% nor was that ever stated. In any event, nothing is going to change. The Villages is going along with the governor who is clearly backing the white house. So be it.
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Old 10-11-2020, 02:55 PM
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I keep hearing "stay home if you're worried about people in the squares not wearing masks or social distancing" Staying home doesn't keep the spoiled people from spreading it to those who aren't there! Those same no mask wearers also go to other places,like grocery stores, drug stores, ect. So they can still be spreading the virus through not being responsible adults.. i wear a mask to protect others & hope that others will wear a mask to protect me♥️
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Old 10-11-2020, 03:09 PM
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You should reread your own post. I will quote part of it below:

It seems unfair to those Villages residents who have the intelligence to wear masks, and the thoughtfulness not to be potential Covid spreaders, that they have to avoid the squares because management won't make masks mandatory.

This is really comical. You are asserting that people have to avoid the squares because mask are not mandatory. You clearly see things only in absolute terms as opposed to the way that science shows us how nature operates. There is a probability of contracting the virus at the squares with or without mandatory masks and nobody knows how much they differ by. Apparently you believe mandatory masks would make the squares safe - there isn't any science to support this. Generally, the guidance issued by the states comes down to recommending wearing a mask outdoors when you are not able to maintain 6 feet of social distancing. Even the most hard hit state, New York, does not require mandatory masks outside unless social distancing cannot be maintained. In other words, if this was New York, masks would not be mandatory. You might want to do some research before spouting off about our Governor, The Villages, and the White House because most of the country is doing the same thing as The Villages (recommending masks).


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I'm getting a laugh out of the condescending mansplaining.. You are not an expert, although, judging by the number of virus related posts you've made, you seem to think so. The experts, the scientists do say that wearing masks makes you safer and that masks, combined with social distancing, make one safer yet. And that being outdoors makes you even more safe. Nothing is 100% nor was that ever stated. In any event, nothing is going to change. The Villages is going along with the governor who is clearly backing the white house. So be it.

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Old 10-11-2020, 03:48 PM
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It's been about 9 months now and I still do not personally know of anyone that got the virus let alone died from it and I know a lot of people that really don't give a sh-- about social distancing or wearing a mask. I'm not saying it's a hoax but just stating my personal observation. I do the distancing and carry sanitizer in my pocket, wear the mask when i feel it is needed but not always.
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Old 10-11-2020, 07:40 PM
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It's been about 9 months now and I still do not personally know of anyone that got the virus let alone died from it and I know a lot of people that really don't give a sh-- about social distancing or wearing a mask. I'm not saying it's a hoax but just stating my personal observation. I do the distancing and carry sanitizer in my pocket, wear the mask when i feel it is needed but not always.
It is my personal observation that the earth is flat, except when you encounter a hill, and then it goes up and down.

And yet...

Personal observations are viewed through the lens of myopathy. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just because you don't know it, doesn't mean it's not true. And just because you think it, doesn't mean it IS true.

That is why god invented science.

Meanwhile, a lot of people living in The Villages has forgotten that "the bubble" is not a compliment. It is a pretty derogatory term for narrow-mindedness and insular thinking. If it doesn't happen to me, or anyone I'm friendly with, then it really doesn't matter at all.

And that's all well and good. But I personally prefer civilization, and all is different shades and varieties of good, bad, and inbetween.
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Old 10-11-2020, 07:57 PM
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...a lot of people living in The Villages has forgotten that "the bubble" is not a compliment. It is a pretty derogatory term for narrow-mindedness and insular thinking...
Maybe they haven’t forgotten anything.

Maybe, if they are light-hearted about such terms and have a positive attitude, they just don’t share your opinion that “the bubble” is automatically a derogatory term.
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Old 10-11-2020, 10:05 PM
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After 3 weeks of retirement, Covid hit, and I was asked to come bac, to the OR. Those with young children wanted to stay Away. Not a problem.

For 5 months wore a 95, plus a surgical mask, plus a face shield. Sometimes used more than once. Unless you developed symptoms you were not tested.

Those who I know that tested positive, returned to work with very little issues, other than using all their vaca time.

Did three types of masks help some, NO. Was there a pattern on who tested positive, NO. We felt it was the luck of the draw. I don’t read the stats or watch the news on Covid, real life is so much better

Do I wear a surgical mask around those I don’t know, when indoors, yes. Outside not so much. Am I going to wait until a vaccine is available to resume my life, NO. But it’s my choice on how I live what is left of my life.
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Old 10-11-2020, 11:13 PM
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It was my understanding that the town squares would open with entertainment and require masks be worn by EVERYONE. How can the Village Entertainment be so careless with peoples lives. The last time I checked, Florida's positive test rate and death rate is still increasing. This virus is NOT going away, in fact, it will get worse as the winter months approach until a certified vaccine is developed.

Stop giving in to a few who still believe this virus is a hoax.
The risk of transmission outside is very low. I'm not aware of any outbreaks traced to groups of people in exterior spaces.

We heard the same warnings after the summer protests, continuing golf, reopening Pickleball, etc... No infections traced to these outside activities.

Superspreader events happen in closed spaces with recirculated air. Wear masks and minimize exposure time in those spaces.
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Old 10-12-2020, 05:13 AM
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Where did you read that mask would be required?
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Old 10-12-2020, 05:17 AM
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I keep hearing "stay home if you're worried about people in the squares not wearing masks or social distancing" Staying home doesn't keep the spoiled people from spreading it to those who aren't there! Those same no mask wearers also go to other places,like grocery stores, drug stores, ect. So they can still be spreading the virus through not being responsible adults.. i wear a mask to protect others & hope that others will wear a mask to protect me♥️

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Old 10-12-2020, 05:38 AM
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Nobody believes the coronavirus is a hoax so I don’t understand why you would say such a thing. If you are uncomfortable with the town squares then don’t go there. To state that The Villages Entertainment is being careless with anyone’s life is absurd - nobody is forcing you to go anywhere. I do not recall reading anywhere that masks were going to be required in the squares - not sure where you got that from. They are requesting masks for the entertainment in the squares. The last time I checked on the Florida coronavirus dashboard, the death rate was in a decline (over the last month).
There are plenty of articles in reputable news sources that mention the people who think that COVid worries are over-inflated and, yes, even a hoax. QAnon, for example, is one conspiracy group whose numbers of followers have exponentially grown in the last few years, who embraces that belief.

Also, the death rate may be down, but the cases are increasing, even with It becoming harder to get tested. There are possible long-term medical consequences to this disease, and I’m not referring to transmission, though that’s also a concern. So death is not the only serious result with which we need to be concerned.
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Old 10-12-2020, 06:05 AM
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Just stay home!
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Old 10-12-2020, 06:16 AM
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They seem to be catering to the snowflakes and snowbirds. They are coming from hotspots all over the world and they’re bringing us a deadly present.
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Old 10-12-2020, 06:17 AM
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It is not a "law" to wear a mask - so not enforceable. Plain and simple.
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