[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Bella6368

The bucks are being made by the vaccine corporations from the "sheeple" that are lining up to take an experimental drug, and then get in line for their booster shots too. And yes, I'm fully aware the FDA just gave "approval" to Pfzier, however both the FDA and CDC have lost all integrity with so much misinformation, contradicting information, and data that is being suppressed from the American people. That FDA approval isn't worth the paper it's written on! The truth will prevail on these vaccines.

I DISAGREE with the contents of this post.

[coconutmama]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

He most certainly DID push Vaccines and was sure they got to older people first. I don't agree with his mandate that school systems would not get funded if they mandated masks, but we were some of the earliest to get the vaccines due to his efforts. He would have been in higher places but that foolish error has stopped him.

Here, yes, because of his many donors. However the folks in Orange & Miami-Dade Counties, to name only 2, were not treated the same.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by coconutmama

Here, yes, because of his many donors. However the folks in Orange & Miami-Dade Counties, to name only 2, were not treated the same.

And yet another who couldn't resist a political statement. Must be a dominant gene

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

No problem---

Droplet and Airborne/Aerosol are different-----airborne does not need "droplets" to spread. Here's a good explanation from the Univ. Of Penn.:

"At issue is the constantly shifting interpretation of droplet size with reference to SARS-CoV-2.

Traditionally, droplets are defined as large (>5 microns) aqueous bodies. However, airborne (or aerosolized) transmission of the virus has been proposed as a source of infection almost since the inception of the COVID pandemic.

By comparison to droplets, aerosolized particles are infinitesimal. Size alone is not the only important distinction: Droplets fall to earth quickly, but aerosols can travel on air currents potentially for hours. Thus aerosolized viruses are likely to be much more infectious than viruses bound to respiratory droplets, and much more difficult to avoid."

So far the "proposal" of airborne transmission of COVID has not panned out. But with a large number of unvaccinated people and continuing mutation/variants, that jump to airborne could certainly be coming.

Thank you for clarifying. I knew from the videos that in order to NOT drop down quickly that the CV had to hitchhike on droplets of some visible size. I was close, but maybe........no cigar!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by flflowers

Buried in the fine print of Monday's approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration of the Pfizer Comirnaty COVID vaccine are two critical facts that affect whether the vaccine can be mandated, and whether Pfizer can be held liable for injuries

Monday, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved a biologics license application for the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine.

The press reported that vaccine mandates are now legal for military, healthcare workers, college students and employees in many industries. New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio has now required the vaccine for all teachers and school staff. The Pentagon is proceeding with its mandate for all military service members.

But there are several bizarre aspects to the FDA approval that will prove confusing to those not familiar with the pervasiveness of the FDA's regulatory capture, or the depths of the agency's cynicism.

First, the FDA acknowledges that while Pfizer has "insufficient stocks" of the newly licensed Comirnaty vaccine available, there is "a significant amount" of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID vaccine -- produced under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) -- still available for use.

The FDA decrees that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine under the EUA should remain unlicensed but can be used "interchangeably" (page 2, footnote 8) with the newly licensed Comirnaty product.

Second, the FDA pointed out that the licensed Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine and the existing, EUA Pfizer vaccine are "legally distinct," but proclaims that their differences do not "impact safety or effectiveness."

There is a huge real-world difference between products approved under EUA compared with those the FDA has fully licensed.

EUA products are experimental under U.S. law. Both the Nuremberg Code and federal regulations provide that no one can force a human being to participate in this experiment. Under 21 U.S. Code Sec.360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(III), "authorization for medical products for use in emergencies," it is unlawful to deny someone a job or an education because they refuse to be an experimental subject. Instead, potential recipients have an absolute right to refuse EUA vaccines.

U.S. laws, however, permit employers and schools to require students and workers to take licensed vaccines.

EUA-approved COVID vaccines have an extraordinary liability shield under the 2005 Public Readiness and Preparedness Act. Vaccine manufacturers, distributors, providers and government planners are immune from liability. The only way an injured party can sue is if he or she can prove willful misconduct, and if the U.S. government has also brought an enforcement action against the party for willful misconduct. No such lawsuit has ever succeeded.

The government has created an extremely stingy compensation program, the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program, to redress injuries from all EUA products. The program's parsimonious administrators have compensated under 4% of petitioners to date -- and not a single COVID vaccine injury -- despite the fact that physicians, families and injured vaccine recipients have reported more than 600,000 COVID vaccine injuries.

At least for the moment, the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine has no liability shield. Vials of the branded product, which say "Comirnaty" on the label, are subject to the same product liability laws as other U.S. products.

When the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices places a vaccine on the mandatory schedule, a childhood vaccine benefits from a generous retinue of liability protections.

But licensed adult vaccines, including the new Comirnaty, do not enjoy any liability shield. Just as with Ford's exploding Pinto, or Monsanto's herbicide Roundup, people injured by the Comirnaty vaccine could potentially sue for damages.

And because adults injured by the vaccine will be able to show that the manufacturer knew of the problems with the product, jury awards could be astronomical.

Pfizer is therefore unlikely to allow any American to take a Comirnaty vaccine until it can somehow arrange immunity for this product.

Given this background, the FDA's acknowledgement in its approval letter that there are insufficient stocks of the licensed Comirnaty, but an abundant supply of the EUA Pfizer BioNTech jab, exposes the "approval" as a cynical scheme to encourage businesses and schools to impose illegal jab mandates.

The FDA's clear motivation is to enable Pfizer to quickly unload inventories of a vaccine that science and the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System have exposed as unreasonably dangerous, and that the Delta variant has rendered obsolete.



Americans, told that the Pfizer COVID vaccine is now licensed, will understandably assume COVID vaccine mandates are lawful. But only EUA-authorized vaccines, for which no one has any real liability, will be available during the next few weeks when many school mandate deadlines occur.

The FDA appears to be purposefully tricking American citizens into giving up their right to refuse an experimental product.

While the media has trumpeted that the FDA has approved COVID vaccines, the FDA has not approved the Pfizer BioNTech vaccines, nor any COVID vaccines for the 12- to 15-year age group, nor any booster doses for anyone.

And the FDA has not licensed any Moderna vaccine, nor any vaccine from Johnson & Johnson -- so the vast majority, if not all, of vaccines available in the U.S. remain unlicensed EUA products.

Here's what you need to know when somebody orders you to get the vaccine: Ask to see the vial. If it says "Comirnaty," it's a licensed product.

If it says "Pfizer-BioNTech," it's an experimental product, and under 21 U.S. Code 360bbb, you have the right to refuse.

If it comes from Moderna or Johnson & Johnson (marketed as Janssen), you have the right to refuse.

The FDA is playing bait and switch with the American public -- but we don't have to play along. If it doesn't say Comirnaty, you have not been offered an approved vaccine.

Wow....how short and sweet! However, I disagree with the erroneous conclusions.

[Malsua]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

Insane is right! It is also insane that people will stick their arm out for a specialized antibody treatment or take an animal dewormer rather than get a vaccination!

You're not a dog. Seriously, stop taking aspirin.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Do you have a link or source, for that obvious cut & paste?

I googled a copy/paste of the first two lines. I followed the trail. It was published in the Defender, an anti-vax activist website that pushes the conspiracy that vaccines are the reason why children have autism, get chronic fatigue syndrome, and a host of other illnesses.

The founder of this anti-vax organization and the co-writer of the article is Robert F. Kennedy Jr, one of the most prolific anti-vaxxers in the country.

In short, the entire article (and that was a direct copy/paste of MOST of the article without citing the source, which is a copyright violation and against the law), is conspiracy tripe.

Here's the copyright at the bottom of the webpage where the article was published:

© 2016 - 2021 Children's Health Defense® • All Rights Reserved

[Malsua]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

is conspiracy tripe.

Ascribing a motive to the drug company is a conspiracy.

Legally though, they have a point. If you are mandated to have an FDA approved drug and you take the current pfizer jab, the EUA applies and you cannot hold Pfizer accountable.

I'm all for Vaxxing people, but legally this is true and every court in the country will side with Pfizer if you get harmed and didn't get Comirnaty.

You can't just use a little hand wavium and say it's the same. Legally, it's not the same. Chemically, it may be, but one offers a legal recourse, the other does not.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by PennBF

It is reality the Monoclonal Antibodies treatment is intended for the more contagious Delta Variant. It is best used 10 days of first symptoms and those who are high risk for severe Covid illness. These are the groups who will be going for the Monoclonal Antibodies the Theater in Brownwood. These are the patients who allegedly will be visiting and gathering in the Brownwood square in Restaurants, Stores, etc. This does not mean they shouldn't be treated it means the medical center should be in a non populated area.

Reality (the fact-based one) is that monoclonal antibody treatment existed before "Delta variant" was ever a consideration.

Sure, put the treatment center in an area that is away from patients, difficult to get to, and does not provide adequate parking. Do that if you DON'T want the treatment to be effective.

[Bill14564]

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[flflowers]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I googled a copy/paste of the first two lines. I followed the trail. It was published in the Defender, an anti-vax activist website that pushes the conspiracy that vaccines are the reason why children have autism, get chronic fatigue syndrome, and a host of other illnesses.

The founder of this anti-vax organization and the co-writer of the article is Robert F. Kennedy Jr, one of the most prolific anti-vaxxers in the country.

In short, the entire article (and that was a direct copy/paste of MOST of the article without citing the source, which is a copyright violation and against the law), is conspiracy tripe.


Here's the copyright at the bottom of the webpage where the article was published:

© 2016 - 2021 Children's Health Defense® • All Rights Reserved

I have a vaccine injured nephew, so just because you may not have anyone in your family that is vaccine injured does NOT mean that it does not happen....he was perfectly developing until about age 3. After series of vaccines including MMR, he became non-verbal and diagnosed with Austism. His mother has to take him into urgent care when he screams in pain, they know him by name there. He cannot tell here why he is hurting when refuses to walk or use his arms when in pain....that comes and goes and is very random. She will never hear him say " I love you, Mommy" ...he is 10 years old now and has worn diapers again since he was three, after being potty trained! Don't tell me vaccines, particularly the MMR, don't cause Autism. There are so many moms out there that have their stories if you ever care to listen

[meboyle]

Originally Posted by PennBF

It is absolutely outrages that the villages are opening up the theater in Brownwood for
Monoclonal Antibody treatment from 9-5 seven days a week. It will be for those who have contacted or were exposed to Covid 19 and at high risk! It is free and vaccinations does not matter! It can handle 300 patients a day! It is insane to think that 300 patients a day that are at high risk for Covid 19 will be wondering around a Square which is the center of business's in Brownwood. You have to be a part of the insanity to entertain Brownwood as a source of relaxation and shopping or sitting around about 500 feet or so having a doughnut and coffee. During the high vaccination period they were given in a very large field at the Brownwood Community Center. This removed the risk of being in a high density of those who have been exposed to the virus. Why in the name of God would you move this to such a high risk location. It just does not make sense!

I completely agree. It’s asinine. Parking is in the back. I hope they will enter through the back to get the infusion. They will have to sit for a while. I hope they can make it.
Walking into the square must not be allowed..crazy stuff.

[kathyspear]

Originally Posted by flflowers

I have a vaccine injured nephew, so just because you may not have anyone in your family that is vaccine injured does NOT mean that it does not happen....

When my son was 3 he attended a preschool program for handicapped kids. One of his classmates was a little girl who appeared to have cerebral palsy. Her mother said she was perfectly normal and healthy until she had one of the typical childhood vaccines and within 24 hours she lost all her muscle tone. The mother said it was a known, albeit rare, condition. (It was decades ago so I don't remember the name.) They thought she would eventually regain much of what she lost but it would take years of therapy.

I never considered NOT vaccinating my kids but I do understand parents who are afraid to do so.

kathy

[jswirs]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Medical Scientists found a SOLUTION to smallpox and polio. They did NOT accept it. Way back then people were either different or smarter than people today......they took the DAMN vaccine and magic, magic NO MORE smallpox and polio. What has gone wrong with the US people today - it hurts my head to think about that!

OK, so, I have a MOST HUMBLE SUGGESTION for your your hurting head,...DON'T THINK ABOUT IT!

[jswirs]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Couldn't agree more

...and, boys and girls, don't forget to tune in next week for the adventures of SUPERMAN, and his never ending battle for truth, justice and the American way! (Wow, it's amazing, I can remember what happened 60 years ago, but I can't remember what happened yesterday. Oh well, CRS strikes again!)