[drducat]

Originally Posted by Malsua

Ascribing a motive to the drug company is a conspiracy.

Legally though, they have a point. If you are mandated to have an FDA approved drug and you take the current pfizer jab, the EUA applies and you cannot hold Pfizer accountable.

I'm all for Vaxxing people, but legally this is true and every court in the country will side with Pfizer if you get harmed and didn't get Comirnaty.

You can't just use a little hand wavium and say it's the same. Legally, it's not the same. Chemically, it may be, but one offers a legal recourse, the other does not.

Correct!

When Comirnaty is available (late 2022/2023) then BioNTech is liable for any adverse reactions and not Pfizer. Same formula different label.

[Mrprez]

Originally Posted by meboyle

I completely agree. It’s asinine. Parking is in the back. I hope they will enter through the back to get the infusion. They will have to sit for a while. I hope they can make it.
Walking into the square must not be allowed..crazy stuff.

There are signs everywhere directing people to the side entrance.

[Love2Swim]

I agree with those that think the decision to house this facility in a Town Square is not a good one. The Savannah Center is more away from people, fine. I personally will avoid Brownwood for awhile, and I know others that will do so too.

[Mrprez]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

I agree with those that think the decision to house this facility in a Town Square is not a good one. The Savannah Center is more away from people, fine. I personally will avoid Brownwood for awhile, and I know others that will do so too.

That’s a personal decision only you can make. Leaves more room for the rest of us.

[Gmaf6]

Having been fully vaccinated (Jan/Feb) and recently becoming very ill with CoVid, I'm very grateful for this treatment. I had to travel to Orlando to get it. If they follow the same protocols that were followed there, it's very safe and provides no danger to anyone else. Within 48 hours, I was remarkedly better and this treatment pretty much saved me from going to the hospital. The fact that we have this option is a God Send.

[DAVES]

I too am guilty. It is far easier to object to what is being done than to actually do something and address problems.

[WinnieHa]

It is a very dumb idea. We frequent the restaurants at Brownwood at least 3 times a week; if there are people with Covid 19 known to be in the area, we will be nowhere near there. Clearly, this will bring people that have tested positive for Covid 19 into a densely populated, high risk area and it is just bone-headed. I am glad that people will have access to treatment but there has to be so many better places to do it. Also, the full embrace of these treatment drugs while keeping the idea of the vaccine/mask wearing at arm’s length is quite puzzling to me.

[Bill14564]

NIMBY always puts a bad taste in my mouth.

I think the theater is a GREAT location for this. Logistically it makes a lot of sense (see post #2) and if someone I care about needs the treatment I would much rather have a location that is close and without a crowded waiting room.

I have mixed feelings about the reactions to this. On the one hand, I would argue that the fearful are foolish: I was at the square last night and will likely be there again tonight. On the other hand, the more who stay away, the more room for me.

[jswirs]

Originally Posted by WinnieHa

It is a very dumb idea. We frequent the restaurants at Brownwood at least 3 times a week; if there are people with Covid 19 known to be in the area, we will be nowhere near there. Clearly, this will bring people that have tested positive for Covid 19 into a densely populated, high risk area and it is just bone-headed. I am glad that people will have access to treatment but there has to be so many better places to do it. Also, the full embrace of these treatment drugs while keeping the idea of the vaccine/mask wearing at arm’s length is quite puzzling to me.

...and the beat goes on, seems there is no end to it...however, we should all do what makes us feel comfortable, that is, if possible.

[Chi-Town]

Let's just say that the location in a movie theater in the middle of a town square is bad optics.

[Mrprez]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

Let's just say that the location in a movie theater in the middle of a town square is bad optics.

Let’s not. The door that is being used is not on the town square. It is 500’ away straight line. Much further by the parking lot or the sidewalk.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by flflowers

Buried in the fine print of Monday's approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration of the Pfizer Comirnaty COVID vaccine are two critical facts that affect whether the vaccine can be mandated, and whether Pfizer can be held liable for injuries

Monday, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved a biologics license application for the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine.

The press reported that vaccine mandates are now legal for military, healthcare workers, college students and employees in many industries. New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio has now required the vaccine for all teachers and school staff. The Pentagon is proceeding with its mandate for all military service members.

But there are several bizarre aspects to the FDA approval that will prove confusing to those not familiar with the pervasiveness of the FDA's regulatory capture, or the depths of the agency's cynicism.

First, the FDA acknowledges that while Pfizer has "insufficient stocks" of the newly licensed Comirnaty vaccine available, there is "a significant amount" of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID vaccine -- produced under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) -- still available for use.

The FDA decrees that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine under the EUA should remain unlicensed but can be used "interchangeably" (page 2, footnote 8) with the newly licensed Comirnaty product.

Second, the FDA pointed out that the licensed Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine and the existing, EUA Pfizer vaccine are "legally distinct," but proclaims that their differences do not "impact safety or effectiveness."

There is a huge real-world difference between products approved under EUA compared with those the FDA has fully licensed.

EUA products are experimental under U.S. law. Both the Nuremberg Code and federal regulations provide that no one can force a human being to participate in this experiment. Under 21 U.S. Code Sec.360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(III), "authorization for medical products for use in emergencies," it is unlawful to deny someone a job or an education because they refuse to be an experimental subject. Instead, potential recipients have an absolute right to refuse EUA vaccines.

U.S. laws, however, permit employers and schools to require students and workers to take licensed vaccines.

EUA-approved COVID vaccines have an extraordinary liability shield under the 2005 Public Readiness and Preparedness Act. Vaccine manufacturers, distributors, providers and government planners are immune from liability. The only way an injured party can sue is if he or she can prove willful misconduct, and if the U.S. government has also brought an enforcement action against the party for willful misconduct. No such lawsuit has ever succeeded.

The government has created an extremely stingy compensation program, the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program, to redress injuries from all EUA products. The program's parsimonious administrators have compensated under 4% of petitioners to date -- and not a single COVID vaccine injury -- despite the fact that physicians, families and injured vaccine recipients have reported more than 600,000 COVID vaccine injuries.

At least for the moment, the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine has no liability shield. Vials of the branded product, which say "Comirnaty" on the label, are subject to the same product liability laws as other U.S. products.

When the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices places a vaccine on the mandatory schedule, a childhood vaccine benefits from a generous retinue of liability protections.

But licensed adult vaccines, including the new Comirnaty, do not enjoy any liability shield. Just as with Ford's exploding Pinto, or Monsanto's herbicide Roundup, people injured by the Comirnaty vaccine could potentially sue for damages.

And because adults injured by the vaccine will be able to show that the manufacturer knew of the problems with the product, jury awards could be astronomical.

Pfizer is therefore unlikely to allow any American to take a Comirnaty vaccine until it can somehow arrange immunity for this product.

Given this background, the FDA's acknowledgement in its approval letter that there are insufficient stocks of the licensed Comirnaty, but an abundant supply of the EUA Pfizer BioNTech jab, exposes the "approval" as a cynical scheme to encourage businesses and schools to impose illegal jab mandates.

The FDA's clear motivation is to enable Pfizer to quickly unload inventories of a vaccine that science and the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System have exposed as unreasonably dangerous, and that the Delta variant has rendered obsolete.



Americans, told that the Pfizer COVID vaccine is now licensed, will understandably assume COVID vaccine mandates are lawful. But only EUA-authorized vaccines, for which no one has any real liability, will be available during the next few weeks when many school mandate deadlines occur.

The FDA appears to be purposefully tricking American citizens into giving up their right to refuse an experimental product.

While the media has trumpeted that the FDA has approved COVID vaccines, the FDA has not approved the Pfizer BioNTech vaccines, nor any COVID vaccines for the 12- to 15-year age group, nor any booster doses for anyone.

And the FDA has not licensed any Moderna vaccine, nor any vaccine from Johnson & Johnson -- so the vast majority, if not all, of vaccines available in the U.S. remain unlicensed EUA products.

Here's what you need to know when somebody orders you to get the vaccine: Ask to see the vial. If it says "Comirnaty," it's a licensed product.

If it says "Pfizer-BioNTech," it's an experimental product, and under 21 U.S. Code 360bbb, you have the right to refuse.

If it comes from Moderna or Johnson & Johnson (marketed as Janssen), you have the right to refuse.

The FDA is playing bait and switch with the American public -- but we don't have to play along. If it doesn't say Comirnaty, you have not been offered an approved vaccine.

THANK YOU 100 times....that was so interesting and informative.....best post of the year.

[PennBF]

I know of no other situation where there is a populated area set aside for high risk Covid-19 or Delta Virant virus carriers within a relative small square! This not only increases the risks because there are 300 at risk a day circulating in the relatively small
area but there are no normal controls for masks, etc. Why has the Villages Theater been set up to be a petri dish for the virus? It just doesn't make any sense?

[charmed59]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I know of no other situation where there is a populated area set aside for high risk Covid-19 or Delta Virant virus carriers within a relative small square! This not only increases the risks because there are 300 at risk a day circulating in the relatively small
area but there are no normal controls for masks, etc. Why has the Villages Theater been set up to be a petri dish for the virus? It just doesn't make any sense?

As there are less than 600 cases a week in Sumter county, I’d guess, even pulling in from neighboring counties, they aren’t hitting anything close to 300 a day.

The entrance isn’t close to the square. It is sort of close to the entrance of the golf car shop. If you see a big crowd in front of the back theater door you might want to wait to peruse the golf cars displayed down that street, but they aren’t near the square.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by Mrprez

Let’s not. The door that is being used is not on the town square. It is 500’ away straight line. Much further by the parking lot or the sidewalk.

Perhaps you took the term "bad optics" a little too literally.