[biker1]

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[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by CFrance

So we should just stop these treatments and let people overwhelm the hospitals or let them die?

Well no! And I thought that I covered that when I said that, for the INDIVIDUAL, it is a GOOD thing.

[biker1]

I guess if you are into lying you could do that. Why someone without an obvious risk factor would do that is not clear to me.

Originally Posted by coffeebean

So......this monoclonal antibody treatment is for prophylaxis too? I didn't realize that. So......anyone can go get it? Just walk on in and do not even have to state that you have been exposed or think you have been exposed? Is that how it works?

[biker1]

Yes, we all know that. What is your point?

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Are we Villagers really at 90% vaccinated? I didn't realize the percentage was so high. That is amazing and I'm so glad to hear that. This is the reason I feel very safe living here in our bubble.

I get it that even break through cases can be treated with the monoclonal antibodies. But.....breakthrough cases are not nearly as many as those cases who have not been vaccinated. So, simple math tells me that more people who are not vaccinated will be requiring this treatment.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by HapEvillager

This Sunday morning at approximately 11:45 a.m. I drove past the entrance being utilized at the theatre on the East side of the building, across from Villages Golf Carts. No, the entrance is not at the rear of the building to the parking lot. A couple were walking out the door holding white cards. They were not masked. They crossed the street to the Villages Golf Cart establishment. As a retired RN, I am concerned about how this drug is being administered. Normally, in an actual clinic or hospital setting it is administered via IV, but I saw a poster on here state it was administered to her/him via “4 injections” at this Brownwood site. I’m not certain of the efficacy in this manner. There is no other way (IM vs IV) it could be projected that 300 patients could be treated in one day. And in case you are wondering, I normally refrain from posting on this site due to the unkind comments and snarkiness of some. Please get the vaccine. Our healthcare system is collapsing and my colleagues are exhausted and leaving the profession. Who will care for us in our time of need without these angels?

I agree with the contents of this post.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I wish you, I, and everyone could live like before 2020. I don't think that will happen. Dr. Osterholm, a virus expert, states that he believes it will be with us for 5 MORE YEARS. Also, I feel that with respect to the big picture problem of the Delta variant, that the monoclonal treatments are "like a band-aid placed on a broken arm". Yes, it will help some people, but that will be OFFSET by the increased psychology of NOT needing to take the vaccines.

I still do not understand why people will opt for a treatment that has EUA rather than the Pfizer vaccine that has full FDA approval at this point in time. What is the rationale?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

This IS a forum for public opinions to be expressed and knowledge gained for local risk assessment and other personal improvements. People to people knowledge swap. Opinions count for something in MY book. We are NOT capable of having this be a Scientific Review. And further, some posters get red in the face and DEMAND to see LINKS. Yet many LINKS are really subjective OPINIONS in disguise. I trust the OPINION of coffee bean more than the OPINION of DR Atlas. So I, for one, would like to continue to read the OPINION of coffee bean and others on this forum. Thank you very much to all !!!!!!

Thank you for that. You are correct that most of the statements made on this forum are opinions and folks are entitled to state them. It really is quite easy to spot the opinions though that are based on conspiracy theories, at least for me it is anyway. Dr. Scott Altas is wrapped up in conspiracy theories so I don't take anything he has to say as having any credence.

[biker1]

It is actually subcutaneous, not IM. Arm or stomach. They have 10 stations, takes about 2 minutes for the injections. There is, of course, some paperwork time. One hour wait time to check for a reaction. Regarding the efficacy, I have not seen any specific data.

Originally Posted by HapEvillager

This Sunday morning at approximately 11:45 a.m. I drove past the entrance being utilized at the theatre on the East side of the building, across from Villages Golf Carts. No, the entrance is not at the rear of the building to the parking lot. A couple were walking out the door holding white cards. They were not masked. They crossed the street to the Villages Golf Cart establishment. As a retired RN, I am concerned about how this drug is being administered. Normally, in an actual clinic or hospital setting it is administered via IV, but I saw a poster on here state it was administered to her/him via “4 injections” at this Brownwood site. I’m not certain of the efficacy in this manner. There is no other way (IM vs IV) it could be projected that 300 patients could be treated in one day. And in case you are wondering, I normally refrain from posting on this site due to the unkind comments and snarkiness of some. Please get the vaccine. Our healthcare system is collapsing and my colleagues are exhausted and leaving the profession. Who will care for us in our time of need without these angels?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by HapEvillager

This Sunday morning at approximately 11:45 a.m. I drove past the entrance being utilized at the theatre on the East side of the building, across from Villages Golf Carts. No, the entrance is not at the rear of the building to the parking lot. A couple were walking out the door holding white cards. They were not masked. They crossed the street to the Villages Golf Cart establishment. As a retired RN, I am concerned about how this drug is being administered. Normally, in an actual clinic or hospital setting it is administered via IV, but I saw a poster on here state it was administered to her/him via “4 injections” at this Brownwood site. I’m not certain of the efficacy in this manner. There is no other way (IM vs IV) it could be projected that 300 patients could be treated in one day. And in case you are wondering, I normally refrain from posting on this site due to the unkind comments and snarkiness of some. Please get the vaccine. Our healthcare system is collapsing and my colleagues are exhausted and leaving the profession. Who will care for us in our time of need without these angels?

And yet.....there are people who claim that this is "fake news". They do not believe this is happening to our health care system because this is what is being reported on MSM. To be honest, it scares the heck out of me to think we may not be able to get proper medical care in an emergency.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by biker1

I guess if you are into lying you could do that. Why someone without an obvious risk factor would do that is not clear to me.

I can't know exactly what is in their mind. But, I can guess that they think that they NEED it for PREVENTION of CV - in lieu of another free PREVENTION that MORE people are taking called a CV vaccination shot. How the Health Care and Medical Science in the US has gotten so twisted and turned around 180 degrees on itself, I don't know. Someone may write a book about that? I think that some people think that it is free and like insurance and they have the time - so, why NOT? They might also be psychologically seeking attention for attention's sake. The CDC's rules seem stricter than Florida's rules. So, I wonder what would happen if some lawyer sued Florida over this? Is it good for society and economics to hand out treatments like candy when we have a known PREVENTION in the form of CV vaccines? I KNOW that the treatments are GREAT for those that REALLY need them, but there must be some downsides to administrating treatments to those that just FEEL that they WANT them?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by biker1

Yes, we all know that. What is your point?

I responded to a statement that many of those receiving the monoclonal treatment are breakthrough cases. My point is that more people who are not vaccinated will be receiving the treatment than folks with break through cases. This remains a pandemic of the un-vaccinated and that is also my point.

[biker1]

Yes, we all know that. There is no need to keep stating the obvious.

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I responded to a statement that many of those receiving the monoclonal treatment are breakthrough cases. My point is that more people who are not vaccinated will be receiving the treatment than folks with break through cases. This remains a pandemic of the un-vaccinated and that is also my point.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by biker1

Yes, we all know that. There is no need to keep stating the obvious.

There are still people who do not believe "the obvious" so why not attempt to reach those people? Is it futile? I don't think so.

[Escape Artist]

Originally Posted by HapEvillager

This Sunday morning at approximately 11:45 a.m. I drove past the entrance being utilized at the theatre on the East side of the building, across from Villages Golf Carts. No, the entrance is not at the rear of the building to the parking lot. A couple were walking out the door holding white cards. They were not masked. They crossed the street to the Villages Golf Cart establishment. As a retired RN, I am concerned about how this drug is being administered. Normally, in an actual clinic or hospital setting it is administered via IV, but I saw a poster on here state it was administered to her/him via “4 injections” at this Brownwood site. I’m not certain of the efficacy in this manner. There is no other way (IM vs IV) it could be projected that 300 patients could be treated in one day. And in case you are wondering, I normally refrain from posting on this site due to the unkind comments and snarkiness of some. Please get the vaccine. Our healthcare system is collapsing and my colleagues are exhausted and leaving the profession. Who will care for us in our time of need without these angels?

Well, then you would know that many health care workers choose not to be vaccinated and they are now being forced to through mandates in various states. They obviously don't think the vaccines are so wonderful, right?

[biker1]

I think we can safely assume that this forum is primarily, perhaps overwhelmingly, read by people who live in The Villages. Over 90% of those have been fully vaccinated, as per the CDC. If you wish to expand the readership to Sumter County then the percentage fully vaccinated is nearly 80%. The ones who haven't been vaccinated either have some specific health issue that precludes vaccination or they have decided that the cons outweigh the pros. If you are of typical age in The Villages, I believe the pros outweigh the cons, by a large margin, but it is their decision. It is the height of hubris to assume that you will "reach those people" or that it is your role in life to "reach those people" in The Villages. If you want to provide some new facts then that is fine but repeatedly make the same statements over and over again serves no purpose. You do not have the domain expertise that would mark you as someone to pay attention to.

Originally Posted by coffeebean

There are still people who do not believe "the obvious" so why not attempt to reach those people? Is it futile? I don't think so.