[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by RUCdaze

The greedy developer use Covid as an excuse to take away many amenities we had up to March, 2020. If that wasn't enough, they continue to gouge us for green fees on championship golf courses. Part of the problem is that we're now in the third generation of the Morse family and now they have to cut the pie into many more pieces. It will likely get worse; it certainly won't get better.

Could you please elaborate upon which amenities we had prior to March 2020 that we no longer have????? Also please explain how a $2.50 increase over last season's $47 rate, is "gouging" when it was a 5.3% increase in a year that gave us 8+% inflation?

So, here's an alternative for you. You could move to my friend's condo building for which he pays an HOA fee of $650/month and gets one outdoor unheated swimming pool and one 20x30 foot gym. You could then go play TPC Sawgrass for $600/round.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Could you please elaborate upon which amenities we had prior to March 2020 that we no longer have????? Also please explain how a $2.50 increase over last season's $47 rate, is "gouging" when it was a 5.3% increase in a year that gave us 8+% inflation?

So, here's an alternative for you. You could move to my friend's condo building for which he pays an HOA fee of $650/month and gets one outdoor unheated swimming pool and one 20x30 foot gym. You could then go play TPC Sawgrass for $600/round.

Or a person could sell their golf clubs and use the money to buy tennis balls at $3 per can and go to a free public tennis court and get a REAL cardiovascular workout. Or buy $ 40 running shoes and go to a free park or track and get a REAL workout. REAL thinking men (and women) don't pay $600/round to play golf. No way, Jose.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Or a person could sell their golf clubs and use the money to buy tennis balls at $3 per can and go to a free public tennis court and get a REAL cardiovascular workout. Or buy $ 40 running shoes and go to a free park or track and get a REAL workout. REAL thinking men (and women) don't pay $600/round to play golf. No way, Jose.

I would pay what they're asking to play Pebble Beach... Once... Same with Sawgrass... Once... To me (and apparently thousands of other "real thinking men (and women)"), it's worth it...

Some people would never pay $500 for a meal...

Some experiences are worth the money...

I remember being in Bermuda, 25 or so years ago. The boss and I went to a fancy restaurant, in an old mansion where the menus were printed on parchment paper, rolled and tied with a ribbon. Blue for the gentlemen and pink for the ladies. Only the blue ribbon ones had prices.

My wife commented on that there were no prices on the menu. I laughed, "Oh YES THERE ARE!!!"

She kept asking what things cost and I told her to order what she wanted, as this was a once in a lifetime experience, figuring we wouldn't get back to Bermuda any time soon.

Anyway, to make a long story longer, it was one of the BEST meals and dining experiences we've ever had. Well worth the ridiculous price!

To quote Ferris Bueller: "Ferris : It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

I would pay what they're asking to play Pebble Beach... Once... Same with Sawgrass... Once... To me (and apparently thousands of other "real thinking men (and women)"), it's worth it...

Some people would never pay $500 for a meal...

Some experiences are worth the money...

I remember being in Bermuda, 25 or so years ago. The boss and I went to a fancy restaurant, in an old mansion where the menus were printed on parchment paper, rolled and tied with a ribbon. Blue for the gentlemen and pink for the ladies. Only the blue ribbon ones had prices.

My wife commented on that there were no prices on the menu. I laughed, "Oh YES THERE ARE!!!"

She kept asking what things cost and I told her to order what she wanted, as this was a once in a lifetime experience, figuring we wouldn't get back to Bermuda any time soon.

Anyway, to make a long story longer, it was one of the BEST meals and dining experiences we've ever had. Well worth the ridiculous price!

To quote Ferris Bueller: "Ferris : It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."

VERY interesting post and a good rationalization (some might NOT use THAT word, instead maybe an explanation) for the reason/ justification for going to a restaurant and paying $ 500 for one (uno) meal for 2 people. I guess that proves that there are 2 kinds of people in the world.......the HAVES and the HAVE NOTS. I guess that tend to relate MORE to the latter group...........in ALL things from meals to golfing for a $600 fee.
......Those things would NEVER enter my mind. I would think that I could use that money to buy a boat and some snorkeling equipment, which I have done, and entered into the wonderful underwater world of a Florida coral reef........in 1973 when there WAS STILL living coral off of the MIAMI area. That IS my idea of a MAGICAL experience, one that I guided myself to and achieved an adventure.
......Personally, I see no, ZERO adventure in having a waiter guide me to a table and wipe my behind for me and then feed my FACE with food. That IS just personal, NOT my thing.
........I can see how someone MIGHT (?) LIKE a restaurant experience. It's not for me.
.........I can understand that there are "different strokes for different folks" and there are NO laws broken by trips to a restaurant. That's just NOT me. Give me the extra money and I will buy more tennis balls and maybe a new basketball and some new running shoes. And maybe I'll save up to DRIVE to Alaska and sleep in a tent with grizzle bear tracks nearby, which I have done.......different strokes.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

VERY interesting post and a good rationalization (some might NOT use THAT word, instead maybe an explanation) for the reason/ justification for going to a restaurant and paying $ 500 for one (uno) meal for 2 people. I guess that proves that there are 2 kinds of people in the world.......the HAVES and the HAVE NOTS. I guess that tend to relate MORE to the latter group...........in ALL things from meals to golfing for a $600 fee.
......Those things would NEVER enter my mind. I would think that I could use that money to buy a boat and some snorkeling equipment, which I have done, and entered into the wonderful underwater world of a Florida coral reef........in 1973 when there WAS STILL living coral off of the MIAMI area. That IS my idea of a MAGICAL experience, one that I guided myself to and achieved an adventure.
......Personally, I see no, ZERO adventure in having a waiter guide me to a table and wipe my behind for me and then feed my FACE with food. That IS just personal, NOT my thing.
........I can see how someone MIGHT (?) LIKE a restaurant experience. It's not for me.
.........I can understand that there are "different strokes for different folks" and there are NO laws broken by trips to a restaurant. That's just NOT me. Give me the extra money and I will buy more tennis balls and maybe a new basketball and some new running shoes. And maybe I'll save up to DRIVE to Alaska and sleep in a tent with grizzle bear tracks nearby, which I have done.......different strokes.

Yes, and to add to that having a few ovens cooking food in one place probably creates less of a carbon footprint than hundreds of ovens scattered all over the place, and hence reduces that "dreaded" CO2 and global warming. But does it do so more or less than buffalo burps????

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Yes, and to add to that having a few ovens cooking food in one place probably creates less of a carbon footprint than hundreds of ovens scattered all over the place, and hence reduces that "dreaded" CO2 and global warming. But does it do so more or less than buffalo burps????

Sorry, you forgot to calculate into the equation the multiple trips of the (restaurant-full) number of people in their in-FER-nal combustion cars and worse-yet Golf Carts versus the same number of people that might stay home and cook on an electric stove or microwave and receive that energy from STATIONARY power generating plant that could BE MORE EFFICIENT and could even use solar, wind, tide, or other almost ZERO polluting sources ........or even one of the NEW GENERATION nuclear plants that are SUPER safe. Incidentally, ALL-gas homes cause a lot of leaks in the transmission pipes and cause CO2 (and you KNOW what that does. and the restaurants PROBABLY use gas grills.......so indoor pollution, which is unhealthy.
.........So, thanks for the question. I am happy to help out with those environmental calculations, they are MY SPECIALTY.
......PS.....I have to run now and "BURP" my Buffalo......Heh, Heh, that sounds like something that Butthead and Beavis would do !

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Sorry, you forgot to calculate into the equation the multiple trips of the (restaurant-full) number of people in their in-FER-nal combustion cars and worse-yet Golf Carts versus the same number of people that might stay home and cook on an electric stove or microwave and receive that energy from STATIONARY power generating plant that could BE MORE EFFICIENT and could even use solar, wind, tide, or other almost ZERO polluting sources ........or even one of the NEW GENERATION nuclear plants that are SUPER safe. Incidentally, ALL-gas homes cause a lot of leaks in the transmission pipes and cause CO2 (and you KNOW what that does. and the restaurants PROBABLY use gas grills.......so indoor pollution, which is unhealthy.
.........So, thanks for the question. I am happy to help out with those environmental calculations, they are MY SPECIALTY.
......PS.....I have to run now and "BURP" my Buffalo......Heh, Heh, that sounds like something that Butthead and Beavis would do !

If the shoe fits........
(walked right into that one)

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

If the shoe fits........
(walked right into that one)

Did it on purpose to see if anyone was paying attention. Anyone, anyone......what movie was that from?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

VERY interesting post and a good rationalization (some might NOT use THAT word, instead maybe an explanation) for the reason/ justification for going to a restaurant and paying $ 500 for one (uno) meal for 2 people. I guess that proves that there are 2 kinds of people in the world.......the HAVES and the HAVE NOTS. I guess that tend to relate MORE to the latter group...........in ALL things from meals to golfing for a $600 fee.
......Those things would NEVER enter my mind. I would think that I could use that money to buy a boat and some snorkeling equipment, which I have done, and entered into the wonderful underwater world of a Florida coral reef........in 1973 when there WAS STILL living coral off of the MIAMI area. That IS my idea of a MAGICAL experience, one that I guided myself to and achieved an adventure.
......Personally, I see no, ZERO adventure in having a waiter guide me to a table and wipe my behind for me and then feed my FACE with food. That IS just personal, NOT my thing.
........I can see how someone MIGHT (?) LIKE a restaurant experience. It's not for me.
.........I can understand that there are "different strokes for different folks" and there are NO laws broken by trips to a restaurant. That's just NOT me. Give me the extra money and I will buy more tennis balls and maybe a new basketball and some new running shoes. And maybe I'll save up to DRIVE to Alaska and sleep in a tent with grizzle bear tracks nearby, which I have done.......different strokes.

Your condescension and derision is duly noted...

As is your lame attempt at "classism"...

I guess some people can appreciate the Mona Lisa and the Venus de Milo, while others are more into "Velvet Elvis" paintings and Franklin Mint figurines... (see, two can play that game...)

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Your condescension and derision is duly noted...

As is your lame attempt at "classism"...

I guess some people can appreciate the Mona Lisa and the Venus de Milo, while others are more into "Velvet Elvis" paintings and Franklin Mint figurines... (see, two can play that game...)

Granted, that high-class restaurants exist so that proves that some people support and enjoy them. Attending restaurants has become an "American thing". We go to restaurants even MORE than the French who are famous for them. Like I said "different strokes" I just wanted to VOICE my side of the concept of "going out" to restaurants. I find it obsequious, which is a word wealth word that I don't get to use very often. I would guess that in the Villages that probably only 10 to 15 % of our lovely folks would agree with me (in avoidance of those dreaded time-wasters)......and money. I feel that my opinion IS an outlier - yet that's me and I am comfortable with ME !!!!!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Granted, that high-class restaurants exist so that proves that some people support and enjoy them. Attending restaurants has become an "American thing". We go to restaurants even MORE than the French who are famous for them. Like I said "different strokes" I just wanted to VOICE my side of the concept of "going out" to restaurants. I find it obsequious, which is a word wealth word that I don't get to use very often. I would guess that in the Villages that probably only 10 to 15 % of our lovely folks would agree with me (in avoidance of those dreaded time-wasters)......and money. I feel that my opinion IS an outlier - yet that's me and I am comfortable with ME !!!!!

Going out to restaurants is "obsequious"? Methinks you don't know what the word means...

And why do you "dis" the Spaniards? They eat out more than anyone, waaay more often than the French and even more than the Italians...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Did it on purpose to see if anyone was paying attention. Anyone, anyone......what movie was that from?

Quoting "Ferris Bueller's Day Off", right after I quoted the very same movie is certainly original...

[Davonu]

Some posters can simply ruin threads. I know...what a shock on an internet forum.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Davonu

Some posters can simply ruin threads. I know...what a shock on an internet forum.

Some people like to talk a lot and use big words to impress somebody but beats me who he is aiming at.

More importantly why is the Village of Stu not getting more votes? It did have over 20,000 views before I stopped posting on it.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Your condescension and derision is duly noted...

As is your lame attempt at "classism"...

I guess some people can appreciate the Mona Lisa and the Venus de Milo, while others are more into "Velvet Elvis" paintings and Franklin Mint figurines... (see, two can play that game...)

Yes, 2 can play a game, but one might be better than the other. and one might be on defense and reacting to the offense. Go Eagles, swoop down on Mr. Irrelevant. I am going to sell some t-shirts with the saying, "lots of Mr. Irrelevants in TV Land". And a few Ms. Irrelevants also.