[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by lamplighter

If I had read this thread before purchasing here, there is a good chance I would have said no way.

. What about this thread is a surprise?

[lamplighter]

This is what I hear:
I don't hear much "do as you please". I hear a lot of "sorry, I'll fix it immediately but please don't beat up on me or others"'. I hear some coming to their rescue to explain and I hear hard liners. Then I hear anger on both sides.....no one hearing what the other is saying.

IMHO, the people are few and far between that have a mess at their residence, some of them banks. I think the real mess makers are not reading this. They don't care. The majority by far are either looking for tolerant harmony over inconsequential things or those ready to pounce on any minor issue and mistake the don't make waves over nothing people as standing up for the mess makers.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by gap2415

So much for tolerance and understanding. I love my village where it is friendly and helpful. We look after one another and forgiving when someone is unknowingly amiss. If it became intolerant and mean spirited, we would have to move. Life is short and how many years have we left? Even with someone watching our home, at times things happen and we don't know until we return a few weeks later. It's usually small but thank heaven, we don't have to return to harshness instead of eager helpfulness.

Actually, there would be more tolerance toward a person who kept their property under observation by a professional when they leave for three months and didn't refer to his neighbors as idiots.

[lamplighter]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Actually, there would be more tolerance toward a person who kept their property under observation by a professional when they leave for three months and don't refer to their neighbors as idiots.

I agree and words like idiots and so forth are angry words. Yet, he did say he was getting right at it not being irresponsible, just angry albeit no one was watching his place. He was gone 3 months, not three months of dead grass and no mention of tall grass and weeds, just dead grass because the sprinklers quit for it seems at least two weeks. I'm not justifying anyone just being an active listener.

I relate this to my neighbor who had a home watcher but her lawn still went brown due to this summers heat in a new section of TV. I phoned her to let her know we were watering her plants and trees and to call the home watch for not upping sprinkler time as the max was not good enough. The area is new so there are few trees for shade and many lawns were beginning to look like the Gobi Desert....like a few golf courses. Things happen. We do our best and fix all we can. If our best isn't good enough or if friendly neighbors become hostile...what's left but to move.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by lamplighter

I agree and words like idiots and so forth are angry words. Yet, he did say he was getting right at it not being irresponsible, just angry albeit no one was watching his place. He was gone 3 months, not three months of dead grass and no mention of tall grass and weeds, just dead grass because the sprinklers quit for it seems at least two weeks. I'm not justifying anyone just being an active listener.

I relate this to my neighbor who had a home watcher but her lawn still went brown due to this summers heat in a new section of TV. I phoned her to let her know we were watering her plants and trees and to call the home watch for not upping sprinkler time as the max was not good enough. The area is new so there are few trees for shade and many lawns were beginning to look like the Gobi Desert....like a few golf courses. Things happen. We do our best and fix all we can. If our best isn't good enough or if friendly neighbors become hostile...what's left but to move.

My biggest complaint about your post was being called intolerant for being irritated over someone calling others idiots before they even complained.

I stand by the rest of it because nowhere is it said that the sprinklers were only failing for two weeks. All I "heard" out of that post when actively listening was arrogance and anger over something that was entirely the poster's responsibility to the neighborhood.

[lamplighter]

I was thinking about the thread as a whole and using examples but perhaps said it wrong. I don't pick on anyone as a norm and apologize if you thought I called you or particular others names.
I think this thread is full of people misunderstanding each other. I'm guessing almost everyone wants to keep their homes up but few like to be policed by neighbors and certainly not the person taking in 30 complaints at a time.

[lamplighter]

I'm done.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by lamplighter

I was thinking about the thread as a whole and using examples but perhaps said it wrong. I don't pick on anyone as a norm and apologize if you thought I called you or particular others names.
I think this thread is full of people misunderstanding each other. I'm guessing almost everyone wants to keep their homes up but few like to be policed by neighbors and certainly not the person taking in 30 complaints at a time.

That I can definitely agree with. Running around noting the slightest infractions, collecting and turning them in is simply vindictive behavior in my opinion. I still think deed compliance should ignore these. They're surely able to modify their rules to curtail this kind of thing.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by lamplighter

I was thinking about the thread as a whole and using examples but perhaps said it wrong. I don't pick on anyone as a norm and apologize if you thought I called you or particular others names.
I think this thread is full of people misunderstanding each other. I'm guessing almost everyone wants to keep their homes up but few like to be policed by neighbors and certainly not the person taking in 30 complaints at a time.

When we were new residents here we were so excited to own a brand new home on a street where we were among the first to buy. That was when they were selling what I call spec houses. We were snowbirds at the time and when we returned we were so disappointed to find that one of our new neighbors had put more than thirty really tacky things in their front yard. I was sick with disappointment.


Thank goodness that there is a way to combat that kind of thing with the rules of deed compliance. At that time, someone else turned them in, but if it were to occur again, I wouldn't hesitate to report a similar infringement and not feel bad about it at all.


When she mentioned that she had been reported, I told her I was not surprised and she was very angry and very shocked. Well, I was very angry and very shocked too. Not everyone enjoys the same kind of art, so deed restrictions are there to protect all.


I am glad this thread is discussing this. I think it was over zealous of someone to take on practically the whole danged town at once, but it was within their right to do so. I can't imagine what triggered the mass reporting.


It would take a lot for me to report one incidence, but I would if it was tacky. I love how this town looks. It is an important part of my enjoyment of this place.

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by lamplighter

If I had read this thread before purchasing here, there is a good chance I would have said no way.

Why would that be ?

[Bonny]

We back up to a couple of rental patio villas. It is so disgusting to see the green mildew covering them !!! 2 doors down we have a house foreclosed on not maintained for 2 years. It is just nasty !
My hubby watches over several homes. When there is a problem, he calls them immediately. They say do what you have to do to fix it.
Shame on these owners that rent their places and don't care about the rest of us!!!

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by lamplighter

If I had read this thread before purchasing here, there is a good chance I would have said no way.

Let me understand. If you knew that people would be required to follow the rules contained in well established covenants and would be required to follow contractual obligations( recorded deed restrictions), you might not have moved here ?

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Challenger

Let me understand. If you knew that people would be required to follow the rules contained in well established covenants and would be required to follow contractual obligations( recorded deed restrictions), you might not have moved here ?

Apparently you didn't understand that poster's response. They didn't imply any of that. You put your own spin on their statement.

Regarding other responses:
When a neighbor had a flat tire on his golf cart, I gave him two of my wheels with tires on. I had changed wheel size on my wife's golf cart. I didn't turn my back on him and tell him that if he had been maintaining his golf cart properly, this flat tire wouldn't have happened.

In my opinion, community spirit is not blaming others for their plight without knowing all the circumstances. The reason some on here are agitated and insulted is because they feel slighted because someone may have violated a rule or two. And the interesting part is how that small little deviation has turned into major disregard to property, with un-mowed and abandoned lawns and derelict homes. Personally, I'll take a small blemish on one's property over consistent traffic violations that I see EVERY day. Stop signs are totally disregarded here. I would mention these dangerous incidents to the drivers, but I can't catch up with them without violating the law myself. The one time that I was able to catch one gent, I attempted to draw his attention to the dangerous act, when he took off like I was going to assault him. Maybe this "anonymous" posting will convince some of you violators toward corrective action? I doubt it. Some find property conformance more important than the violation of real laws.

Like several of the calmer posters mentioned, you folks need to chill a bit and enjoy your last years. You find it selfish for some folks that ignorantly are blind to your displeasure with THEIR property. I bet you are proud of the fact that you support the monthly neighborhood collection for the food bank/pantry.

Next time you all bust a stop sign, think about how callously you came down on the poster that was a victim of a vendetta/agenda for having a small brown spot on her lawn and an empty flower pot. Hopefully, it won't be the last thing you think of as you bust through a dangerous intersection. I deviated from the thread? So did some of you when you associated abandoned and derelict property to a brown spot in a lawn.

As far as property value is concerned, I sincerely hope that some of you that it pertains to see a vast upward swing in your home value so that you will be able sell your homes and move on that place of your dreams. Like I said earlier, home value means nothing to me. I plan to live here so any upward trend in my home value will only effect a change in my taxes. And like I also said, 99% of my neighbors have violated at least one of the rules. And yet, a home on the market in my neighborhood is likely sold within a week of listing. I wonder why there is such a high demand if my neighborhood is so dysfunctional.

I have read some of the posters posts on other threads and I KNOW that you are not (normally) mean spirited folks. So, if I offended anyone on here I hope you can forgive YOURSELVES.

[lamplighter]

Originally Posted by Challenger

Let me understand. If you knew that people would be required to follow the rules contained in well established covenants and would be required to follow contractual obligations( recorded deed restrictions), you might not have moved here ?

I've already given my answer a number of posts back but some of you are bent on misinterpreting or misunderstanding and i prefer to have a nice day today rather than going on and on about this. You give examples of extremes that no one would object to and then have the audacity to say that I I was against covenants and deeds! How outrageous. It's clear you do not know me or who I am or what I tried to say. My first post was a reflection of what I was hearing, my last that people do not like being policed by neighbors. This type of response to my post proves why.

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Apparently you didn't understand that poster's response. They didn't imply any of that. You put your own spin on their statement.

Regarding other responses:
When a neighbor had a flat tire on his golf cart, I gave him two of my wheels with tires on. I had changed wheel size on my wife's golf cart. I didn't turn my back on him and tell him that if he had been maintaining his golf cart properly, this flat tire wouldn't have happened.

In my opinion, community spirit is not blaming others for their plight without knowing all the circumstances. The reason some on here are agitated and insulted is because they feel slighted because someone may have violated a rule or two. And the interesting part is how that small little deviation has turned into major disregard to property, with un-mowed and abandoned lawns and derelict homes. Personally, I'll take a small blemish on one's property over consistent traffic violations that I see EVERY day. Stop signs are totally disregarded here. I would mention these dangerous incidents to the drivers, but I can't catch up with them without violating the law myself. The one time that I was able to catch one gent, I attempted to draw his attention to the dangerous act, when he took off like I was going to assault him. Maybe this "anonymous" posting will convince some of you violators toward corrective action? I doubt it. Some find property conformance more important than the violation of real laws.

Like several of the calmer posters mentioned, you folks need to chill a bit and enjoy your last years. You find it selfish for some folks that ignorantly are blind to your displeasure with THEIR property. I bet you are proud of the fact that you support the monthly neighborhood collection for the food bank/pantry.

Next time you all bust a stop sign, think about how callously you came down on the poster that was a victim of a vendetta/agenda for having a small brown spot on her lawn and an empty flower pot. Hopefully, it won't be the last thing you think of as you bust through a dangerous intersection. I deviated from the thread? So did some of you when you associated abandoned and derelict property to a brown spot in a lawn.

As far as property value is concerned, I sincerely hope that some of you that it pertains to see a vast upward swing in your home value so that you will be able sell your homes and move on that place of your dreams. Like I said earlier,

home value means nothing to me.

I plan to live here so any upward trend in my home value will only effect a change in my taxes. And like I also said, 99% of my neighbors have violated at least one of the rules. And yet, a home on the market in my neighborhood is likely sold within a week of listing. I wonder why there is such a high demand if my neighborhood is so dysfunctional.

I have read some of the posters posts on other threads and I KNOW that you are not (normally) mean spirited folks. So, if I offended anyone on here I hope you can forgive YOURSELVES.

I don't think traffic violations or golf cart tires have anything to do with the deed restrictions being talked about. That's okay that your home value means "nothing" to you, but I think for the majority of us, our home value means a lot to us. I don't think it's too much to expect people to maintain their yards or follow the rules. They made the choice to move here fully knowing all of the deed restrictions.