[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Just thought of a fantastic indoor sport that has A/C......bowling. Actually, I don't know how true this is but I have heard there are more bowlers in The Villages than there are golfers. Anyone know for sure about this?

I'd tend to doubt that statistic... Just based on the number of golf courses vs the number of bowling alleys...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That IS EXACTLY what I have been saying. Swimming is the only sport that you can do outside for about 8 hours (from 10 AM to 6 PM). It is SEVERELY limiting. And you have to wear a white long-sleeve pullover in the water and a hat to prevent SKIN CANCER. And put sunblock on the backs of your hands and on your neck. And the long-term global warming forecast by 99% of the scientists is for increased HEAT around the globe for the next 30 years.
.........Maybe if today's US citizens would start buying more E-vehicles and E-carts and bikes, then MAYBE, JUST MAYBE our children and grandchildren can SAFELY move BACK to Florida and enjoy Fl. as people like me did in the 1970s before Global Warming.
.........My problem is that MY megaphone isn't big enough to overcome the epidemic of complacency. I wish that what I say was NOT true. I wish that everything REALLY was honey and PARADISE in central Florida.

Then what would you have to complain about?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Yes true. BUT, those are ACTIVITIES NOT outdoor competitive SPORTS where you push yourself to the limit under the sun and humidity. Sure I have done yoga and book reviews and movie reviews indoors in the A/C. The book club does NOT put on gloves and go 3 rounds in a ring to argue about the value of a certain book.
.........Activities and competitive KICK-ASS sports are 2 different things!
.........Do bowlers EVEN break a sweat? How about the billiards players? And the poetry club? Do they run a mile race and then sit down and read poetry in the A/C.........................I don't think so.
..........Maybe the residents that do the ACTIVITY of beating up a large rubber ball with a stick DO break out into a little sweat. But, who are they competing with? Yes.....themselves........but that is NOT COMPETITIVE pushing.

So... You moved to a place where you cannot play your "KICK-ASS" sport for most of the day, lest you pass out from the heat or get skin cancer?

Sounds like you made a BIG mistake... Big...HUGE...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

For the most part, your wish has been granted. You're just pontificating now to get a rise out of people.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Pretty sure he’s a reincarnation of ColdNoMore.

This forum just hasn’t been the same since ColdNoMore.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

You’re not trying to be informative. You’re trying to cram your views down everyone’s throat by your incessant posting. There is no reason to reply to almost every post in a thread to make your point. It just comes across as you believing that your opinion matters more than everyone else’s. You have 30 posts in this thread, twice as many as anyone else. You either feel that you’re more important or you’re not very good at getting your point across.

To be fair, I do have a fair # of posts on this thread...

But most of them are responding to his nonsense...

I know, I know... I should ignore him... But he makes it SO EASY!

He just tees them up...

[Michael 61]

My post sure got hijacked, didn’t it.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by Michael 61

My post sure got hijacked, didn’t it.

You’ve been here long enough now to know that after the first page it’s a goner.

[Quixote]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

"It turned out that his beef was with seniors removing themselves from their jhome communities where they still had a viable and important role to 'isolate' themselves in senior communities, and The Villages was the best one to use as an example because of its size and popularity."

Interesting! We encountered kind of the same mindset among some Minnesotans when we (and a whole lot of others) decided to abandon L'etoile du nord for the land of sun and sand. Near as I could make out it really had nothing to do with our "viable and important role" in our home communities, but really more about what we were taking with us. Of course there were/are various reasons for not moving, but in a nutshell the ones who COULD afford to move, often did, and that meant taking our money, toys, spending power and various accounts with us.

Minnesota has been hemorrhaging money for some years now as the more affluent seniors as well as younger folks still working but able to move, have been fleeing the state like deranged lemmings. The population numbers in Minnesota overall have remained pretty stable, but as the people with the money leave they're being replaced by folks who more often than not see a "career" as slurping at the public trough. A third-grader can do that kind of arithmetic.

Guilt trip about shirking our responsibilities? Read "tax base". THAT is the real reason.

A clear, objective, realistic view—thank you—but not according to Blechman who likely knew that it would not sell books....

In the heyday of the carrying-on of those touting the 'STD school of negativity,' counts of STDs are maintained by county, not by neighborhoods, villages, or The Villages. But in one of those year the naysyers were carrying on about the count of one STD having doubled, or increased 100%. It turned out that in actual numbers, in one y ear there had been two cases, while the following year there were four! And to think there are actually people who buy into this type of interpretation....

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Yes true. BUT, those are ACTIVITIES NOT outdoor competitive SPORTS where you push yourself to the limit under the sun and humidity. Sure I have done yoga and book reviews and movie reviews indoors in the A/C. The book club does NOT put on gloves and go 3 rounds in a ring to argue about the value of a certain book.
.........Activities and competitive KICK-ASS sports are 2 different things!
.........Do bowlers EVEN break a sweat? How about the billiards players? And the poetry club? Do they run a mile race and then sit down and read poetry in the A/C.........................I don't think so.
..........Maybe the residents that do the ACTIVITY of beating up a large rubber ball with a stick DO break out into a little sweat. But, who are they competing with? Yes.....themselves........but that is NOT COMPETITIVE pushing.

Well, I guess we are discussing two different things. Activities vs competitive sports are completely different when rating the perspiration and muscle challenge meters. I haven't gone back to the original comments in this thread but did I miss that?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Michael 61

My post sure got hijacked, didn’t it.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Probably wouldn't have happened if they were playing golf...

Oh.....thanks for quoting that post. Now I don't have to go back and look it up.

It was ME who mentioned that it is life threatening to drive in snow and ice and not life threatening to drive in heat and humidity. Then someone replied to my post and said it can be life threatening to play active sports in the heat. So........that was not my original intent but someone else who brought up playing active sports outside in the heat. My response to that was I don't do that sort of stuff. I was just concerned about the safety of driving in snow and ice vs heat and humidity.

That is how discussions evolve. Thanks again for helping me remember how we got on that tangent.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Quixote

A clear, objective, realistic view—thank you—but not according to Blechman who likely knew that it would not sell books....

In the heyday of the carrying-on of those touting the 'STD school of negativity,' counts of STDs are maintained by county, not by neighborhoods, villages, or The Villages. But in one of those year the naysyers were carrying on about the count of one STD having doubled, or increased 100%. It turned out that in actual numbers, in one y ear there had been two cases, while the following year there were four! And to think there are actually people who buy into this type of interpretation....

Lol!

Gotta love what Mark Twain had to say about the three kinds of untruths: "Lies, damned lies, and statistics".

I remember something similar some years back. Couple of decades, maybe. Anyway the discussion involved the death penalty, and the state of Texas was getting mercilessly raked over the coals for LEADING THE NATION in executions the previous decade. Lots of hand-wringing over that. As I recall the hand-wringers didn't like it at all when it was pointed out to them that the state with actually the most executions per capita (which is what really matters, after all) was not Texas at all but DELAWARE.

Same kind of "reasoning" that was used regarding TV and STDs.

[Bilyclub]

Here's the scorecard thru 16 pages.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Every animal population has a "holding capacity", which depends on available food, range, and infrastructure in humans' case. At some point, for humans, the "quality of life" starts dropping. I am just hypothesizing that both the US and The Villages MAY (?) have crossed that threshold.

True. Isn't overpopulation what leads to lemmings hurling themselves en masse over cliffs? At least that was the going theory back when in was in High School.

The problem with that line of reasoning (and I don't entirely disagree with it, by the way) is that we just don't have the data to say that such is true about humanity. I recall back in the early 1960s, as a junior-high student, we were being told that the planet was being maxed out vis a vis total population: that the population of the world at the time (about 3 billion as I recall) was already more than the earth sustain and that the coming years and decades would surely see mass starvations, border wars over food and water, etc. etc. Didn't happen, of course. According to Hunger Explained, "Bread for the World" , "In 1960, 1 in 3 people was hungry. Today, chronic hunger affects 1 in every 8 or 9 people". Pretty much blows the doom-and-gloomers of the 1960s totally out of the water.

We don't seem to be anywhere near the point where our knowledge of science is no longer capable of maintaining the status quo regarding world hunger. If anything, history proves the exact opposite.