[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

This must be an exciting event, since you have done it more than once. Browbeating one of your neighbors who is working at a rec center for a few extra bucks, is not a macho thing. They should not have to put up with your kind, that think you are special.

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Done what more than once, gone to sports pool in the evening to get in a good workout, being sure to arrive early enough to have enough time before the scheduled closing? Done that well more than a thousand times and hope to do it several thousand more times. There is nothing macho, browbeating, or thinking one is special about expecting the pool to remain open until the scheduled closing time. If the pool needed to be closed for an unanticipated and unscheduled reason, such as an equipment failure, I would completely understand. Closing a pool because an employee wishes their shift would end sooner is not an acceptable reason. I am guessing that during our careers if we took off from work early on a regular basis because we didn’t feel like being there, our a$$es would have been fired very quickly. Swim on : )

Topchfa.....STOP DIGGING!!!!!

[Bertram00]

Definition of Dawn? Tony Orlando's backup singers!

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

This must be an exciting event, since you have done it more than once. Browbeating one of your neighbors who is working at a rec center for a few extra bucks, is not a macho thing. They should not have to put up with your kind, that think you are special.

Where did the events described even come close to browbeating?

Expecting to receive the service that is advertised is in no way thinking that one is special. On the other hand, refusing to provide the service as advertised is a problem that needs to be corrected.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by RPDaly

Me paying about $170 for this amenity is my right to question someone who works for me.

Good Lawd, you're one of those. "I'm a tax-payer and I pay your salary!"

Let's break that down with, sayyyy, a police officer's salary. In Wildwood, the average annual 2022 salary was 38,321. I'm'a gonna go with an even 38K.

As of 2020, there were 7339 residents of Wildwood. Doing the basic division, you paid that guy or lady around $5 for the entire year of service you receive. If he works the standard full time 2,080 hours a year, you pay him two cents every 8-hour day he works, or a dime per 40-hour week.

It's far far less you "pay his salary" to the poor pool attendant.

If I were him, I'd toss you a couple nickels and tell you just keep them rather than deal with your attitude.

[Villagesgal]

We pay to use the pools open till dusk. If I were to go to a sports pool and the sun is still out, that's not dusk and I would swim and complain to his or her boss that the worker is trying to close the pool early. We pay for the right to swim till dusk. The worker has accepted a lower paying job, the pay level has nothing to do with them agreeing to do a job at the agreed upon wage. Their job is to close the pool at dusk, not while the sun is still shinning. Period.

[Crazyladycruz]

How about when the lamp posts go on? Just like when we were young and had to be home when the street lights went on…😆😆

[Keeferinspace]

Originally Posted by RPDaly

Yes- I could call the Village Recreation Dept. I can't seem to find it in any published Village resource. When pools have a schedule that ends with "dusk" . What does that mean? Quantify it in this context (e.g. 15 minutes after sunset). I know the astronomical meaning and it is a time after sunset. Or is it up to the particular attendant on duty to define it?

Happy to see dusk as the closing time! I’ve been using “sunset”on my phone app as the target time for finishing my swim and STILL run into staff closing the pool down early. I’m apologetic when I remind them when the pool is suppose to close. I don’t want to keep them there longer than they have to but the pools are why I came to the Villages. I can’t always get to one during the day. Evenings are the best time for me. And as neighborhoods around our rec center continue to grow, finding a lane for lap swimming is getting harder at more traditional times. I sympathize with the staffer who gave me a dirty look recently just as she was locking the pool gate with still over 40 minutes to go before sunset (not even dusk) but it’s what I’m paying for. And even though I do, I shouldn’t have to feel guilty when I’m only asking them to honor the designated operating times. Keep in mind, many people using the lap pool do so for exercise. Not to get a tan. Not to be refreshed. If it’s cool and rainy (as long as there’s no lightening), lap swimmers can still enjoy their time in the water. I’m sure they would like the opportunity to exercise their amenity privileges at designated times just as golfers (or any others) do.

[Rodneysblue]

Originally Posted by fishon

Dawn Wells is the best definition of dawn.

You got my vote.

[Rodneysblue]

Originally Posted by RPDaly

Me paying about $170 for this amenity is my right to question someone who works for me.

Wow! I use to have “people “ say that to me when I worked for a school system. My reply was I pay taxes too, so I work for myself and I don’t agree with you.

[JSR22]

Originally Posted by Rodneysblue

Wow! I use to have “people “ say that to me when I worked for a school system. My reply was I pay taxes too, so I work for myself and I don’t agree with you.

Great answer!

[Bilyclub]

Where is this Villages rule published ? There are 3 post saying the website says 30 minutes after sunset,.

Originally Posted by Gmaf6

According to Villages rule, dusk is 18 minutes after sunset….one thing to keep in mind is that many Recreation areas have more than one pool to close. In addition, there are Pickleball, sometimes tennis courts as well as the occasional dog park that need to be closed at dusk. Given the tasks as well as the fact that many times there’s only one Rec Assistant working, one can give these folks a break for managing the tasks quite well. Most of the folks working these jobs are long retired and do it for various reasons. Yes, our amenity fees help pay their salary….but it also pays for a lot more. If some aren’t happy with the way things are run, maybe they could take a job and do it better!

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

According to the Villages "pool guidelines" published on the districtgov.org website, dusk is defined as follows.

"Pools and outdoor facilities close at dusk (30 minutes after sunset)."

[valuemkt]

Keep complaining about those few minutes because you think you rule the world and the next thing you know the open times will be set at 9am to 4pm .. Sometimes its just better to STFU

[TrapX]

Maybe ask WHY do they have to close? What's the actual difference between being open at 6pm or at sunset? No lifeguard. No maintenance happens. Nada.
Many pools have lights in the pools and around the deck. Presumably to allow the pool to be used after dark.
I propose changing the rules to allow these pools to be open until midnight.
Would need to pay some extra hours for someone to check on the use. That cost is tribal compared to the $200million collected every month. From sunset to closing anyone at AND IN the pool will be required to show TV ID upon demand. Noise shall be at a minimum (no screaming kids, no shouting, etc).
Let's give that a try.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by TrapX

Maybe ask WHY do they have to close? What's the actual difference between being open at 6pm or at sunset? No lifeguard. No maintenance happens. Nada.
Many pools have lights in the pools and around the deck. Presumably to allow the pool to be used after dark.
I propose changing the rules to allow these pools to be open until midnight.
Would need to pay some extra hours for someone to check on the use. That cost is tribal compared to the $200million collected every month. From sunset to closing anyone at AND IN the pool will be required to show TV ID upon demand. Noise shall be at a minimum (no screaming kids, no shouting, etc).
Let's give that a try.

Did you share this with the Rec dept? They make the rules….not TOTV posters.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by TrapX

Maybe ask WHY do they have to close? What's the actual difference between being open at 6pm or at sunset? No lifeguard. No maintenance happens. Nada.
Many pools have lights in the pools and around the deck. Presumably to allow the pool to be used after dark.
I propose changing the rules to allow these pools to be open until midnight.
Would need to pay some extra hours for someone to check on the use. That cost is tribal compared to the $200million collected every month. From sunset to closing anyone at AND IN the pool will be required to show TV ID upon demand. Noise shall be at a minimum (no screaming kids, no shouting, etc).
Let's give that a try.

Just a little high. More like $120M for the year ($10M/month). (according to VCCDD and SLCDD budget documents)