[mulligan]

In sumter, the inspectors are hired by TV, and the building dep't sign's off on the inspector's reports. It's a common practice in Florida known as "threshold inspections".

[NJblue]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Really, unless you live real close to the "dairy property" or if you live in Fruitland Park and not The Villages, there is no big deal.

Other than probably having CR 466A widened all the way to US 441, which might not happen if the Fruitland Park part of The Villages isn't developed, it won't affect the rest of us at all.

While I agree with most of your assesments of this issue, I'm not sure about this one. This would be a sizeable addition to TV. Anytime a great number of additional residents are added to a population that share amenities, there is a logical question about whether this addition will upset the established expectation about access to the shared resources.

From the quoted newspaper article, it appears that the plan would include "a golf course". I assume/hope that this is an executive course since there have been no additional exec courses added to the master plan despite significant additions to residential units over the past years. If it is an executive course, there would be additional demand on championship courses without additional resources being added to meet that demand.

Will there be any additional large rec centers with sports pools and fitness centers? Those at Colony and Seabreeze are already over-burdened and from what I have heard, the new one (Eisenhower) will not have a fitness center. If that trend continues and with thousands of additional residents being added to the plan, it is premature to say that there will be no impact on us.

Even traffic/safety could be impacted. There is already a problem with golf cart traffic trying to cross the street leading to Colony Plaza. This plan would add thousands of additional golf carts that utilize that intersection. Perhaps this could be addressed with a tunnel or something, but until that is covered in the plan, we have a right to question the impacts.

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Other than probably having CR 466A widened all the way to US 441, which might not happen if the Fruitland Park part of The Villages isn't developed, it won't affect the rest of us at all.

I'd really hate to see that nice 2 lane country road widen to 4 lanes. Then what, strip shopping centers.

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by Shimpy

I'd really hate to see that nice 2 lane country road widen to 4 lanes. Then what, strip shopping centers.

2 lane country roads and beautiful, serene pastures with cattle grazing make for a pleasant drive and a beautiful view. Four lane roads and strip shopping malls make for greater employment and a growing economy. Future generations still need a growing economy. It's called progress.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by NJblue

While I agree with most of your assesments of this issue, I'm not sure about this one. This would be a sizeable addition to TV. Anytime a great number of additional residents are added to a population that share amenities, there is a logical question about whether this addition will upset the established expectation about access to the shared resources.

From the quoted newspaper article, it appears that the plan would include "a golf course". I assume/hope that this is an executive course since there have been no additional exec courses added to the master plan despite significant additions to residential units over the past years. If it is an executive course, there would be additional demand on championship courses without additional resources being added to meet that demand.

Will there be any additional large rec centers with sports pools and fitness centers? Those at Colony and Seabreeze are already over-burdened and from what I have heard, the new one (Eisenhower) will not have a fitness center. If that trend continues and with thousands of additional residents being added to the plan, it is premature to say that there will be no impact on us.

Even traffic/safety could be impacted. There is already a problem with golf cart traffic trying to cross the street leading to Colony Plaza. This plan would add thousands of additional golf carts that utilize that intersection. Perhaps this could be addressed with a tunnel or something, but until that is covered in the plan, we have a right to question the impacts.

since we belong to a large fitness center up north..it was a great disipointment to see the fitness area at seabreeze...plus extra $$ to use the few machines that are available...its just not a perk on our end..

[quirky3]

Originally Posted by NJblue

While I agree with most of your assesments of this issue, I'm not sure about this one. This would be a sizeable addition to TV. Anytime a great number of additional residents are added to a population that share amenities, there is a logical question about whether this addition will upset the established expectation about access to the shared resources.

From the quoted newspaper article, it appears that the plan would include "a golf course". I assume/hope that this is an executive course since there have been no additional exec courses added to the master plan despite significant additions to residential units over the past years. If it is an executive course, there would be additional demand on championship courses without additional resources being added to meet that demand.

Will there be any additional large rec centers with sports pools and fitness centers? Those at Colony and Seabreeze are already over-burdened and from what I have heard, the new one (Eisenhower) will not have a fitness center. If that trend continues and with thousands of additional residents being added to the plan, it is premature to say that there will be no impact on us.

Even traffic/safety could be impacted. There is already a problem with golf cart traffic trying to cross the street leading to Colony Plaza. This plan would add thousands of additional golf carts that utilize that intersection. Perhaps this could be addressed with a tunnel or something, but until that is covered in the plan, we have a right to question the impacts.

Thank you for a good, common sense observation.

[DianeM]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Really, unless you live real close to the "dairy property" or if you live in Fruitland Park and not The Villages, there is no big deal.

Other than probably having CR 466A widened all the way to US 441, which might not happen if the Fruitland Park part of The Villages isn't developed, it won't affect the rest of us at all.

That's what I thought so I'm at a loss to try to understand why people are up in arms. Don't want to share their lifestyle?

[champion6]

Originally Posted by DianeM

That's what I thought so I'm at a loss to try to understand why people are up in arms. Don't want to share their lifestyle?

For quite a few years, TV has been building homes in unincorporated Sumter County. The property had been purchased years ago (I don't know how many years). They have just kept rolling along, a.k.a "A Building Machine" (my words). New villages have been created, as well as town centers.

Now for the new "attention getters."

For the first time in quite a while, TV wants to purchase a sizable parcel. It is located in Lake County and within Fruitland Park. This location requires public notices and public meetings and public hearings which we newer residents have not witnessed before. And so you are witnessing the "excitement" that follows these meetings.

The reality is TV is adding a couple more villages with pools, a rec center, and a golf course. Same old, same old. BUT it is making headlines because of these meetings.

Here is a preliminary site plan for the property. It indicates there will be123 Premiers, 1647 Designers and 202 Villas. It seems to show (my guess) 2 Neighborhood pools, 1 Village rec center, and 1 Executive golf course.

[scot_atc]

I imagine there are a few folks that are anticipating their property value going up dramatically with build out, and this delays that in their mind.

[NJblue]

Originally Posted by champion6

For quite a few years, TV has been building homes in unincorporated Sumter County. The property had been purchased years ago (I don't know how many years). They have just kept rolling along, a.k.a "A Building Machine" (my words). New villages have been created, as well as town centers.

Now for the new "attention getters."

For the first time in quite a while, TV wants to purchase a sizable parcel. It is located in Lake County and within Fruitland Park. This location requires public notices and public meetings and public hearings which we newer residents have not witnessed before. And so you are witnessing the "excitement" that follows these meetings.

The reality is TV is adding a couple more villages with pools, a rec center, and a golf course. Same old, same old. BUT it is making headlines because of these meetings.

Here is a preliminary site plan for the property. It indicates there will be123 Premiers, 1647 Designers and 202 Villas. It seems to show (my guess) 2 Neighborhood pools, 1 Village rec center, and 1 Executive golf course.

This is not just "same old, same old". The Villages is a master planned community. When all that property was purchased years ago, they had the ability to develop a master plan for the entire concept. This included traffic engineering, water/sewer planning, golf course and other amenity planning. As long as the project was constrained by the original size and scope, the only thing necessary, if the original planning was done well (and it seems to have been), is minor tweeks to the plan. This is the advantage that master planned communities have over normal communities and their suburban sprawl.

Now, however, they have been deviating from the original plan. First by additions to rooftops (as houses are referred to by the CDD) in lands previously designated as commercial as well as relatively minor new land acquisitions and now by a major land acquisition. Since these additions were not part of the original plan, it's anyone's guess as to how well they will be integrated into the existing plan, but clearly those who laid out the original plan many years ago, did not include all these new houses in their overall plan. Will it look well planned 10 years from now? Or, will it resemble suburban sprawl?

[GPGuar]

Is there anyway to see the new FP site plan up close and more clearly?

[gomoho]

So do you think Fruitland Park will be thought of as part of TV or always thought of as "that other community"? Just seems like it will be so separate from the rest of us it won't have the same continuous flow most neighborhoods enjoy.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by gomoho

So do you think Fruitland Park will be thought of as part of TV or always thought of as "that other community"? Just seems like it will be so separate from the rest of us it won't have the same continuous flow most neighborhoods enjoy.

Why should it be any different than Chatham which is in Marion county or Mira Mesa which is in Lake County. This is just another village in Lake county. No big deal.

[OldManTime]

I'm willing to make a wager that Fruitland Park will turn down the Villages offer.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by OldManTime

I'm willing to make a wager that Fruitland Park will turn down the Villages offer.

Five dollars?