Disney vs Desantis Disney vs Desantis - Page 4 - Talk of The Villages Florida

Disney vs Desantis

Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #46  
Old 04-21-2022, 06:37 AM
B-flat B-flat is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 843
Thanks: 398
Thanked 684 Times in 233 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eg_cruz View Post
disney is going more then exercising their freedom of speech. Some companies think they are to big to bring them in check.
ditto!
__________________
E=Fb
The Musical Theory of Relativity
  #47  
Old 04-21-2022, 06:40 AM
Petersweeney Petersweeney is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 468
Thanks: 289
Thanked 454 Times in 207 Posts
Default

I’m going to Disney Springs to buy some Nike e gear and wash all the crap they feed us down with a Coke…..
  #48  
Old 04-21-2022, 06:47 AM
midiwiz midiwiz is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 786
Thanks: 18
Thanked 421 Times in 256 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by villagetinker View Post
I am sure this will have an effect on my future voting:

MSN

Hope the link works, if not do a Google search, the Florida taxpayers could be on the hook for $2 BILLION if this goes through.

I hope this does not go completely political.....

The failure of that position is that it doesn't consider the ludicrous amount of taxes that will pour into the area rather than being held 'captive' . Unfortunately MSN tends to only look at one side of the story and never look at the entire picture. Much like half this country.

Plus the number of $2B has been changing which shows it's over baked.
__________________
Never give up, Never surrender.... just take your prisoners with you
  #49  
Old 04-21-2022, 06:47 AM
MartinSE MartinSE is offline
Platinum member
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 1,883
Thanks: 100
Thanked 1,723 Times in 666 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by B-flat View Post
ditto!
Some people think they are too big to be rained in. Freedom of speech remains for them, and A governor passing a law in retribution for something someone says, is about as anti-American as you can get.
  #50  
Old 04-21-2022, 06:53 AM
Blackbird45 Blackbird45 is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 581
Thanks: 0
Thanked 657 Times in 272 Posts
Default Your being used

This is all a political game to raise his profile.
All you have to do is look at the don't say gay bill.
The bill could have said that there would no reference to sex at all between pre-school and third grade, with whatever penalty they saw fit, but it would have been a mere blip in the news.
It was specifically worded the way it was to stir up controversy, the same with the math books and now Disney.
Both sides use this tactic everyone is being used by these politicians to climb the latter.
Though over Governor is bring this to a new level.
  #51  
Old 04-21-2022, 07:00 AM
lpkruege1 lpkruege1 is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 181
Thanks: 419
Thanked 190 Times in 86 Posts
Default

This seems to be a political post.
  #52  
Old 04-21-2022, 07:05 AM
christine J Toft christine J Toft is offline
Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 63
Thanks: 472
Thanked 59 Times in 30 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinSE View Post
And you have every right to do that. They did something, you disagree with it, as an American you have every right to not patronize them.

Sadly, THEY apparently do not have a right to say what they believe. There is NO doubt why this action is being taken, it is a government action to retaliate against a speech that the government disagrees with - isn't that covered someplace in the constitution? Isn't free speech something we hear all the time on this forum. Or is freedom of speech only free when one agrees with the person being censored?

I hope some will look beyond the reason this action is being taken and see it is a direct attack on democracy in our country and a direct violation of the constitution.
Let's hope the courts agree with you.
__________________
Mitsy
  #53  
Old 04-21-2022, 07:08 AM
Jeffery M Jeffery M is offline
Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 49
Thanks: 3
Thanked 57 Times in 27 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by villagetinker View Post
I am sure this will have an effect on my future voting:

MSN

Hope the link works, if not do a Google search, the Florida taxpayers could be on the hook for $2 BILLION if this goes through.

I hope this does not go completely political.....
There is no state income tax in Florida.
  #54  
Old 04-21-2022, 07:08 AM
rogerrice60's Avatar
rogerrice60 rogerrice60 is offline
Member
Join Date: Jul 2021
Posts: 88
Thanks: 693
Thanked 49 Times in 29 Posts
Default

Tax Disney to make up any short fall.
Glad to see Disney being held accountable for their ungodly position!
  #55  
Old 04-21-2022, 07:09 AM
Villages Kahuna's Avatar
Villages Kahuna Villages Kahuna is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Seventeen-year Villager
Posts: 3,892
Thanks: 16
Thanked 1,132 Times in 418 Posts
Default Will The Villages Development Districts Survive?

The government of The Villages is based closely on that of the way the Disney developments are financed and governed. The exception I believe is that Disney issues the bond financing to fund their developments, but retains the obligation to repay those bonds. The result is that Disney retains the authority to “govern” the areas using that form of financing.

In the case of The Villages, the obligation to service and repay the bonds used to fund infrastructure development is transferred to home buyers when they close on the purchase of their homes. Governance of The Villages is then transferred to homeowners over a ten-year period, after which the homeowners have the authority and responsibility to elect representatives to self-govern, including funding all governmental services with real estate taxes.

The question I have is whether the legislation passed yesterday will prevent the issuance of the bonds by The Villages in the first place? That is, will the Developer be required to fund the infrastructure and recreational facilities and then try to repay themselves thru much higher sales prices of new homes?

I haven’t read any analysis of the new Florida law, but it seems to me that it will change the fundamental formula which has permitted over thirty years of successful development of The Villages and rapidly speed the responsibility for providing and all the services normally provided by governmental agencies. The question that follows of course is whether real estate taxes will have to immediately put in place to provide and fund the governance of The Villages which had been provided by the Developer over the initial ten-year period following completion of various phases of the development?

I sure don’t have those answers, max out site seems to follow that the cost of infrastructure development will have to be’ baked in’ to the selling prices of new homes with the residents immediately assuming the responsibility of forming, organizing and paying for all the units of government required.

Somehow, I think, the new law also has to effect residents of The Villages by removing the decision-making currently being provided by The Villages Developer.

An old saying seems to apply… If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
__________________
Politicians are like diapers--they should be changed frequently, and for the same reason.

Last edited by Villages Kahuna; 04-21-2022 at 07:40 AM.
  #56  
Old 04-21-2022, 07:10 AM
Dantes Dantes is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 181
Thanks: 24
Thanked 143 Times in 67 Posts
Default

Just like Twitter and it’s free speech
  #57  
Old 04-21-2022, 07:11 AM
christine J Toft christine J Toft is offline
Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 63
Thanks: 472
Thanked 59 Times in 30 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive View Post
Good point.

Mickey & Co. aren't going away, Once the smoke clears and the howling lessens, it is back to business as usual.
It's election year. This doesn't go into effect until summer 2023. You know, after the midterms and the Gov's re-election bid. My odds say that it will be repealed after he's elected again. Just another political move.
__________________
Mitsy
  #58  
Old 04-21-2022, 07:12 AM
Bay Kid's Avatar
Bay Kid Bay Kid is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: The Villages and the Northern Neck on the Chesapeake Bay, VA.
Posts: 6,314
Thanks: 1,712
Thanked 3,567 Times in 1,602 Posts
Default

This is America. Everyone should have to abide by the same rules. Plus these people are now trying to ruin the kids.
  #59  
Old 04-21-2022, 07:16 AM
rogerrice60's Avatar
rogerrice60 rogerrice60 is offline
Member
Join Date: Jul 2021
Posts: 88
Thanks: 693
Thanked 49 Times in 29 Posts
Default

Dumb response
  #60  
Old 04-21-2022, 07:17 AM
christine J Toft christine J Toft is offline
Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 63
Thanks: 472
Thanked 59 Times in 30 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikingjunior View Post
Maybe Disney shouldn't have tried extorting the government by threatening to withhold donations from a certain party because they didn't like a certain bill that was passed by elected officials.

Disney let a handful of people pressure them to go woke and their tanking stock reflects Americas response.

Anyone who wants to cry about moral ground let's not forget when Obama's IRS went after conservative business owners.

Politics have become down right dirty but if you stand by idle you will be walked all over in today's environment.

It's nice to have somebody willing to fight back against people who try to extort and bully their way into what they want.
I guess anyone who doesn't give $ to a politician, is "Extorting the Government"! Seriously! Get you hate out here folks!
__________________
Mitsy
Closed Thread

Tags
hope, search, florida, taxpayers, completely


You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:23 PM.