[Chi-Town]

Striping has nothing to do with responsibility. People who are responsible drive accordingly, and the same goes for people who aren't. The striping is to aid all, the same that highway and street striping do.

[bagboy]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

Are you going to skating in the rain? Everyone keeps telling me what they wouldn't do. What would you do to improve the safety of the MMPs. I want a serious answer, not some comment like the "concrete barrier in the middle"? That does not add value to the disucssion.

My contribution to MMP safety. I will not speed. I will not text or talk on the phone while operating my cart. I will keep my patience with drivers, bikers, walkers, etc. regardless. I will not drive my cart if I am on medication that discourages me from operating machinery. I will not get plastered at a local restaurant/bar then risk anyone's safety anywhere. And I HOPE that when and if the time comes that I can no longer operate my cart safely due to vision (day or night), physical or mental impairment, slow reaction time, etc. that I will have the sense to let someone else do the driving.
Most of the above isn't what I would do, but rather what I do. I think it goes along way for a safer MMP ride.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by bagboy

My contribution to MMP safety. I will not speed. I will not text or talk on the phone while operating my cart. I will keep my patience with drivers, bikers, walkers, etc. regardless. I will not drive my cart if I am on medication that discourages me from operating machinery. I will not get plastered at a local restaurant/bar then risk anyone's safety anywhere. And I HOPE that when and if the time comes that I can no longer operate my cart safely due to vision (day or night), physical or mental impairment, slow reaction time, etc. that I will have the sense to let someone else do the driving.
Most of the above isn't what I would do, but rather what I do. I think it goes along way for a safer MMP ride.

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

I have asked in this thread and other threads on this topic for those who are against the striping to offer alternatives to make the MMPs safer. All I have received is....nothing...well not serious replies anyway. I have received a lot of criticism because I support the idea of improving the safety of the MMPs.

I will offer an answer. The MMP's are already safe. The problem lies with the drivers. All of the issues with drivers have been discussed. A fix will not be effective unless it targets and lessens (or eliminates) the problem.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

I will offer an answer. The MMP's are already safe. The problem lies with the drivers...

What a relief. The goal of 100% safe, perfect MMP's has finally been attained. No room for improvement left at all.

I feel so much better now.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by bagboy

My contribution to MMP safety. I will not speed. I will not text or talk on the phone while operating my cart. I will keep my patience with drivers, bikers, walkers, etc. regardless. I will not drive my cart if I am on medication that discourages me from operating machinery. I will not get plastered at a local restaurant/bar then risk anyone's safety anywhere. And I HOPE that when and if the time comes that I can no longer operate my cart safely due to vision (day or night), physical or mental impairment, slow reaction time, etc. that I will have the sense to let someone else do the driving.
Most of the above isn't what I would do, but rather what I do. I think it goes along way for a safer MMP ride.

That's a good one. I like the "plastered" qualifier versus "drink".

[villagetinker]

Originally Posted by bagboy

My contribution to MMP safety. I will not speed. I will not text or talk on the phone while operating my cart. I will keep my patience with drivers, bikers, walkers, etc. regardless. I will not drive my cart if I am on medication that discourages me from operating machinery. I will not get plastered at a local restaurant/bar then risk anyone's safety anywhere. And I HOPE that when and if the time comes that I can no longer operate my cart safely due to vision (day or night), physical or mental impairment, slow reaction time, etc. that I will have the sense to let someone else do the driving.
Most of the above isn't what I would do, but rather what I do. I think it goes along way for a safer MMP ride.

Bagboy,
WELL SAID, and I will add this goes to operating a car. Agree with you completely. My father in law, suffered from macular degeneration (lived in FL for almost 30 years), and realized he could not see well enough to drive, and turned in his license and keys. He is my role model, and I plan to do the same, when I have the same or similar problems. I could not live with myself, if I injured or killed someone under these circumstances.

[Xcuse]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

Are you going to skating in the rain? Everyone keeps telling me what they wouldn't do. What would you do to improve the safety of the MMPs. I want a serious answer, not some comment like the "concrete barrier in the middle"? That does not add value to the disucssion.

I don't intentionally go skating in the rain. Other sources of dampness are dew and irrigation water and the possible sudden unexpected shower that I have been told occasionally happens in The Villages.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by bagboy

My contribution to MMP safety. I will not speed. I will not text or talk on the phone while operating my cart. I will keep my patience with drivers, bikers, walkers, etc. regardless. I will not drive my cart if I am on medication that discourages me from operating machinery. I will not get plastered at a local restaurant/bar then risk anyone's safety anywhere. And I HOPE that when and if the time comes that I can no longer operate my cart safely due to vision (day or night), physical or mental impairment, slow reaction time, etc. that I will have the sense to let someone else do the driving.
Most of the above isn't what I would do, but rather what I do. I think it goes along way for a safer MMP ride.

I promise to slow down and look both ways at each stop sign before rolling through, and turn my turn signal off when I get to my destination, and try not to speed more than 3 or 4 mph over the speed limit if I see a police car.

[Challenger]

This discussion is usless until we have accurate statistics on MMP accidents. I have seen or heard none. The only accidents that we read about are car/cart.

I find at night there are a few(very few) spots where reflectors on the center line would be helpful.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

Are you going to skating in the rain? Everyone keeps telling me what they wouldn't do. What would you do to improve the safety of the MMPs. I want a serious answer, not some comment like the "concrete barrier in the middle"? That does not add value to the disucssion.

Difficult to answer your question since nobody has been killed or seriously injured on the MMP because of the path. (Not sure anyone has ever been killed on the MMP). Because striping the paths doesn't change behavior it's hard to understand why it would make a difference. There are reckless drivers on the4 MMP's just as there are on the highways and roadways. Cars still pass on solid lines, cut off cars when merging and run into people on motorcycles and bikes. And those roadways are striped.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by JoMar

...Because striping the paths doesn't change behavior it's hard to understand why it would make a difference...

Why do people insist that a (potential) visibility issue is related to driver behavior? You mean a good driver can't benefit from improved visibility? I'll never understand this "logic".

[Xcuse]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

Why do people insist that a (potential) visibility issue is related to driver behavior? You mean a good driver can't benefit from improved visibility? I'll never understand this "logic".

Not everyone using the MMP's is a driver. The MMP's are for the use of everyone no matter the mode of transportation.