[Allegiance]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I am not a fan of POA.

Did you ever elaborate on the mistakes made by residents in power, north of 466? Is so sorry I missed it.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Wiotte

Why ?

Some people don't like the POA, because of their successful lawsuit against the developer.

Although it happened before we moved here, I've read the history on it and it's plain to see that the developer, for whatever reason (greed or accounting/projection incompetence)... didn't value future repairs/replacements correctly.

Ironically enough, somewhere in all that I read, Morris himself...admitted to being wrong.

I totally support the POA, since it is the ONLY organization that tries to protect the residents...NOT the developer.

For those who believe the developer can do no wrong, it's easy to see why the POA...Is not real popular.

[Bogie Shooter]

Morse.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Morse.

Didn't admit to being wrong.

[PennBF]

If he had to pay $40M it is pretty safe to say Morse was wrong regardless what some may say to try to protect him. We love the Villages but don't lose track that absolute power, (e.g. Morse) can be used to abuse. The family does wonderful things to build a great community BUT that does not mean that along the way they may abuse some of their power. It is similar to the old Company towns in western Pennsylvania on steroids. The POA is the only control the residents have to monitor and occasionally grab a major violation of developer stewardship. Just as the Developer must be cautious not to abuse the power given to him by the residents the POA must be cautious to avoid raising flags of problems when in fact they are for the residents improved living standards. Although the Developer may have concluded the park by 466 and Morse may have been an improvement and it probably was the real problem was a disregard of the rules of the Villages which if a resident did it would be a significant violation and probably caused a serious consequence. In these type of issues the POA is important to alert the residents that a significant abuse has occurred.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by PennBF

If he had to pay $40M it is pretty safe to say Morse was wrong regardless what some may say to try to protect him. We love the Villages but don't lose track that absolute power, (e.g. Morse) can be used to abuse. The family does wonderful things to build a great community BUT that does not mean that along the way they may abuse some of their power. It is similar to the old Company towns in western Pennsylvania on steroids. The POA is the only control the residents have to monitor and occasionally grab a major violation of developer stewardship. Just as the Developer must be cautious not to abuse the power given to him by the residents the POA must be cautious to avoid raising flags of problems when in fact they are for the residents improved living standards. Although the Developer may have concluded the park by 466 and Morse may have been an improvement and it probably was the real problem was a disregard of the rules of the Villages which if a resident did it would be a significant violation and probably caused a serious consequence. In these type of issues the POA is important to alert the residents that a significant abuse has occurred.

Just a technical issue. I don't believe it is the residents who have given the developer power. It seems to me that the developer's power and authority come from 2 places: 1) his ownership of property, and 2) the form of "government" that has been established.

His ownership of property gives him certain privileges in determining how the property he sells may be used. The CDD form of management offers certain benefits, both to the developer and to the residents.

I hope one or more of the legal posters will correct my impressions if appropriate.


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[New Englander]

I am moving to TV in Sept and I have no idea what the POA is. Could someone fill me in? Thanks

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Originally Posted by New Englander

I am moving to TV in Sept and I have no idea what the POA is. Could someone fill me in? Thanks

It is a group without standing that opposes the developer and CDD.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Some people don't like the POA, because of their successful lawsuit against the developer.

Although it happened before we moved here, I've read the history on it and it's plain to see that the developer, for whatever reason (greed or accounting/projection incompetence)... didn't value future repairs/replacements correctly.

Ironically enough, somewhere in all that I read, Morris himself...admitted to being wrong.

I totally support the POA, since it is the ONLY organization that tries to protect the residents...NOT the developer.

For those who believe the developer can do no wrong, it's easy to see why the POA...Is not real popular.

The most recent lawsuit brought by POA...wasn't successful.

http://villagespectator.com/wp-conte...-Spectator.pdf

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix

It is a group without standing that opposes the developer and CDD.

More like a club that the Developer does listen to for input. I have never understood why people believe they live in a democracy in TV.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by JoMar

...I have never understood why people believe they live in a democracy in TV.

I don't think that many people do. They're just fine with it as it is.

[Mleeja]

Sometimes I wish Ms Tutt had as much power as some of the posters think she has. Then she could just kick all of the constant complainers out of The Villages.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Didn't admit to being wrong.

Oh really?

https://www.ccfj.net/CDDVillages$40milllawsuit.html

"[The developer] has looked at the settlement as an issue of what's good for the community," Johnson said Wednesday in court.

Sure sounds like it to me.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

Sometimes I wish Ms Tutt had as much power as some of the posters think she has. Then she could just kick all of the constant complainers out of The Villages.

Yeah. It'd be nice. sigh.

[PennBF]

Back around 2000 the Recreation Center on the Historical side of the Villages had serious problems, e.g mice in the ceiling, decaying structure. When the residents asked the Developer to fix the problem he said they had no money to do it and that the Develope/Org. had not put reserve funds aside for crisis like these. Up until that time the POA was recognized by the Developer and no problems. However when the POA tried to get the Developer to change his mind he resisted so they brought suit against him. They won and were awarded $40 Million. After that the Developer was against the POA and formed what is now the HOA or "Home Owners Association". The POA is the "Property Owners Association" Thus the HOA is a platform used by the Developer and the POA watches out for the residents while the HOA has a close attachment to the Developer and his actions. To illustrate how dedicated the Board of POA is they put their own money up for the layw suit and to fix the Historical Redc Center. That was a significant risk on their part.