[DAVES]

Originally Posted by n8xwb

My only comment is to your last paragraph about loading your car in front of a Publix in The Villages. Unlike Lowes and Home Depot, I don't believe Publix has a dedicated "loading zone" in front of any of their stores, perhaps I am mistaken. So, since there is no such zone, YES you are inconveniencing EVERY car that has to pull around your car AND every shopper leaving or entering the store who has to go around your car. So maybe you can tell me why you feel it is OK for you to do this? Do you feel you have some kind of special need, or right? Is there some reason you feel you shouldn't park your car and push your grocery cart to that location? Oh, and I might add, that a Publix bagboy (for lack of a better word) will gladly push your loaded cart to your car, unload the cart, and return the cart to the store!

Maybe I am missing something??

Child psychology at around age two you become are that there are other people and things besides yourself. For too many they never made that leap.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by n8xwb

My only comment is to your last paragraph about loading your car in front of a Publix in The Villages. Unlike Lowes and Home Depot, I don't believe Publix has a dedicated "loading zone" in front of any of their stores, perhaps I am mistaken. So, since there is no such zone, YES you are inconveniencing EVERY car that has to pull around your car AND every shopper leaving or entering the store who has to go around your car. So maybe you can tell me why you feel it is OK for you to do this? Do you feel you have some kind of special need, or right? Is there some reason you feel you shouldn't park your car and push your grocery cart to that location? Oh, and I might add, that a Publix bagboy (for lack of a better word) will gladly push your loaded cart to your car, unload the cart, and return the cart to the store!

Maybe I am missing something??

Good point.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by n8xwb

My only comment is to your last paragraph about loading your car in front of a Publix in The Villages. Unlike Lowes and Home Depot, I don't believe Publix has a dedicated "loading zone" in front of any of their stores, perhaps I am mistaken. So, since there is no such zone, YES you are inconveniencing EVERY car that has to pull around your car AND every shopper leaving or entering the store who has to go around your car. So maybe you can tell me why you feel it is OK for you to do this? Do you feel you have some kind of special need, or right? Is there some reason you feel you shouldn't park your car and push your grocery cart to that location? Oh, and I might add, that a Publix bagboy (for lack of a better word) will gladly push your loaded cart to your car, unload the cart, and return the cart to the store!

Maybe I am missing something??

You must be right, IATA. In front of the keyboard I complain about people parking in fire lanes, honking at non-issues, and making rude comments while the whole time I feel I am special and feel it is okay for me to inconvenience others and do those very things. Yep, that's me, the one with the golf cart long enough to block the entire entrance

[Calisport]

I agree. Loading people or the car in front of the store is inconsiderate. Maybe this isn't what you were doing.
This reminds me of small towns in Greece. If someone wants a parking space they drive in front of incoming traffic, park, get out of the car parked the wrong direction...while the oncoming lane is completely blocked/stopped. Unbelievable.

[Laker14]

My suggestions:
1. Keep smiling and you will get smiles back.
2. Tomorrow, try to keep track of all of the unsolicited smiles you receive.
IMO, if we run into 20 smiling faces, and one jerk, we tend to spend an inordinate amount of mental anguish on the jerk.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by n8xwb

My only comment is to your last paragraph about loading your car in front of a Publix in The Villages. Unlike Lowes and Home Depot, I don't believe Publix has a dedicated "loading zone" in front of any of their stores, perhaps I am mistaken. So, since there is no such zone, YES you are inconveniencing EVERY car that has to pull around your car AND every shopper leaving or entering the store who has to go around your car. So maybe you can tell me why you feel it is OK for you to do this? Do you feel you have some kind of special need, or right? Is there some reason you feel you shouldn't park your car and push your grocery cart to that location? Oh, and I might add, that a Publix bagboy (for lack of a better word) will gladly push your loaded cart to your car, unload the cart, and return the cart to the store!

Maybe I am missing something??

Sadly, most of us are pretty good at finding the faults in others. All the while being woefully unaware of our own missteps and transgressions. If I ever make a wrong move or a poor choice there is a little voice in my head that let's me know I screwed up. My answer to that voice is a simple, "yes dear.".

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

This will be our second season seeing the snowbirds return though I'm not sure last year really counted. We've noticed a marked increase in rudeness in the last couple of weeks; does it always get this way and do we get to enjoy another five months of this?

Just this week:

- Car coming through the Residents gate honked at a cart that had the audacity to pull into the neighborhood rather than crossing the road. The cart didn't impede the car, it was well into the diamond lane before the car reached it, but apparently not sitting and waiting for the car to pass was an offense.

No comment, I really can't visualize why the person would honk.

- Car swerving out of the Residents lane and coming through the open gate on the Visitors side without stopping honked at a cart stopped in the center area waiting for exiting cars to pass. Since the incoming car did not stop at the gate it's possible the cart was still part way in the lane when the car reached it which would have caused the car to have to actually slow down after it raced through the open gate.

If the gate is open, they would have stopped before passing through it, and once on the other side, they aren't required to stop. It sounds like he stopped - just in the wrong lane. But he did stop, and was doing what he was supposed to be doing. His honk was probably to urge the golf cart to hurry and get out of the way since the car driver had already done their job and it was their turn. When everyone takes their turn, traffic runs smoothly.

- Shopper in Publix trying to push my wife out of the way with their cart as I was looking at the turkey breasts. "I want one of those," seemed be the signal that her time had expired and she was required to move or risk being bumped.

I don't know why they'd push your WIFE out of the way while YOU were looking at turkey breasts, unless she was blocking everyone else from something. Is it possible that she had been just standing in front of something SHE wasn't trying to decide on, and not giving any indication that she was paying attention to someone standing there trying to get where she was? I mean, I totally would've said, loudly, "EXCUSE ME I'm trying to get over there" and wouldn't have tried to push her with my cart. But consider that other people might want to be where your wife was, and if she was oblivious - she'd have to accept that eventually someone is going to do or say something to nudge her along.

- Shopper exiting Publix making rude comment about me being stopped to load groceries. Not parked, actually sitting in the drivers seat with the vehicle in drive as groceries were actively being loaded but apparently I was inconveniencing them somehow.

As someone else said - Publix doesn't have a loading zone. The front curb of their store is for customers to move themselves, their shopping carts, wheelchairs, electric scooter-things that the store offers, in and out of the store. It is not for motor vehicles. It's possible you were blocking a wheelchair ramp, in which case they were absolutely right in saying something about it.

There are people in the store who are -paid- to get your groceries to their customers' cars in the parking lot. And they have electric scooters with baskets to help their less mobile customers get around. There is zero reason, whatsoever, for any car, truck, or van, to be stopped at the curb directly outside the store.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

No comment, I really can't visualize why the person would honk.


If the gate is open, they would have stopped before passing through it, and once on the other side, they aren't required to stop. It sounds like he stopped - just in the wrong lane. But he did stop, and was doing what he was supposed to be doing. His honk was probably to urge the golf cart to hurry and get out of the way since the car driver had already done their job and it was their turn. When everyone takes their turn, traffic runs smoothly.


I don't know why they'd push your WIFE out of the way while YOU were looking at turkey breasts, unless she was blocking everyone else from something. Is it possible that she had been just standing in front of something SHE wasn't trying to decide on, and not giving any indication that she was paying attention to someone standing there trying to get where she was? I mean, I totally would've said, loudly, "EXCUSE ME I'm trying to get over there" and wouldn't have tried to push her with my cart. But consider that other people might want to be where your wife was, and if she was oblivious - she'd have to accept that eventually someone is going to do or say something to nudge her along.


As someone else said - Publix doesn't have a loading zone. The front curb of their store is for customers to move themselves, their shopping carts, wheelchairs, electric scooter-things that the store offers, in and out of the store. It is not for motor vehicles. It's possible you were blocking a wheelchair ramp, in which case they were absolutely right in saying something about it.

There are people in the store who are -paid- to get your groceries to their customers' cars in the parking lot. And they have electric scooters with baskets to help their less mobile customers get around. There is zero reason, whatsoever, for any car, truck, or van, to be stopped at the curb directly outside the store.

Please see post #18. I was wrong; my eyes lied to me and clearly I passed that lie along in the original post. I am the entitled one, IATA. Thank you to those who have helped me see the reality of things.

[Garywt]

Rude people have been rude their entire life. Rules and order in ones life don’t apply to these people. No amount of time in The Villages will cure them.

[Debfrommaine]

Originally Posted by Garywt

Rude people have been rude their entire life. Rules and order in ones life don’t apply to these people. No amount of time in The Villages will cure them.

Agree, people are who they are in The Villages or not.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Garywt

Rude people have been rude their entire life. Rules and order in ones life don’t apply to these people. No amount of time in The Villages will cure them.

Sad, but very, very true. What is even sadder is the ones that are totally unaware of the fact that they are being rude.

[jchase]

I think people think to much about nothing, don’t have much to do. Enjoy yourself and don’t worry about it!

[Fredman]

Originally Posted by n8xwb

My only comment is to your last paragraph about loading your car in front of a Publix in The Villages. Unlike Lowes and Home Depot, I don't believe Publix has a dedicated "loading zone" in front of any of their stores, perhaps I am mistaken. So, since there is no such zone, YES you are inconveniencing EVERY car that has to pull around your car AND every shopper leaving or entering the store who has to go around your car. So maybe you can tell me why you feel it is OK for you to do this? Do you feel you have some kind of special need, or right? Is there some reason you feel you shouldn't park your car and push your grocery cart to that location? Oh, and I might add, that a Publix bagboy (for lack of a better word) will gladly push your loaded cart to your car, unload the cart, and return the cart to the store!

Maybe I am missing something??

You hit the nail on the head. I guess if you sit in the drivers seat you aren’t considered parked. DUH

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Please see post #18. I was wrong; my eyes lied to me and clearly I passed that lie along in the original post. I am the entitled one, IATA. Thank you to those who have helped me see the reality of things.

Passive-aggressive defensiveness is not attractive.

You asked a question and laid out specifics of your concern. You received some possible explanations, no one actually *accused* you of wrong-doing. Your comment in post #18 about parking your golf cart long enough to obscure the entire entrance was the clue that you're just throwing snark down.

MY post specified that MAYBE you were blocking the wheelchair ramp. In addition, it doesn't matter. It's not a loading zone, you're not supposed to stop there. It's a crosswalk. It doesn't matter if you're taking up the entire crosswalk, or just 4 inches of it. You're not supposed to do it.

If you get defensive over someone suggesting that MAYBE you did something you weren't supposed to do, then you might want to ask yourself why you're always seeing rude people.

[tjlee500]

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