[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

Very true and the traffic confirms it.

Agreed, Florida roads have NEVER caught up with its population increases.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by coconutmama

4 couples we are friends with have moved out of TV in the last 2 years to AR, NC, TN & OH. 3 of the 4 to be closer to family. One because of the expense & overcrowding. But the majority of our friends plan to stay until they can no longer golf.

However all the recent overbuilding is causing a lot of negative chatter. Traffic is an issue along with short term rentals

"Until they can no longer golf" - I agree that the major reason for staying here is the activities. But, there is also SAFETY in numbers for many elderly people living in one area. This would be offset by the increased teenagers that seem to be polluting The Villages in the last 3 or so years.

[LeRoySmith]

Originally Posted by roguesearcher

Try the heat in TX. yikes!!!!

This is hotter than Dallas, no question.

[LeRoySmith]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I know that it is CHEAPER to live in Tennessee.

I can't believe in going to agree with Jim but here goes.

Our 'home house' is in East TN, it's a similar house and no kidding 1/4th or less for the cost of ownership there vs here. We are still going to make this or full time home and vacation in various places in the North. If in 5 or 6 years the heat or expense gets to be too much we will find another place and call that home. For right now this is it for us, great place that's kind of spendy but we love it. Can't take that money with you.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

We are moving back north. Reasons: #1 Health & nearness to family, #2 Quality medical care, #3 heat and humidity, #4 winter season traffic, and #5 winter crowds. We enjoyed our time living here full time but things have changed over the years and feel it's now time to go and will leave a nice home for our replacement.

I think that this IS a very intelligent post that contributes a lot to this thread subject. Many TVLanders are dissatisfied with their health care providers here. I imagine that many that are full time residents have found that the summer heat has become obnoxious. Many say that food prices are higher here than other parts of the country. People say that prices for golf carts are higher in the Villages BUBBLE that outside the bubble dealers. To learn about the summer HEAT increase - you can Google that and find out that Worldwide our planet has been HEATING up for the past 30 years. So, that makes MANY year around Florida residents think about leaving.

[ThirdOfFive]

Just got back from the golf course.

Nothing beats TV for golf in the summer.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Certainly all valid reasons. Florida in general and TV in particular is not heaven: Florida has large crowds and nuts traffic all year round but it is particularly heavy and irritating during high 'bird season, and medical care can be a roll of the dice. We've made our adjustments and absolutely love it here now and for the foreseeable future, but the possibility of a change that severely impacts our abilities to live here independently could certainly dictate a move in the future.

So, that makes me ask the question (and I am serious) should only HEALTHY people live here ?????

[LeRoySmith]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Florida isn’t for everyone, many in TV have the ability to vaca to cooler states visiting family and friends. Some like us have more than one home, and can travel to see seasons change.
In TV hurricane weather isn’t a factor for us, insurance is less in TV than our northern homes, car insurance about the same. As far as lighting storms, doesn’t effect us anymore than the tornadoes, straight winds and severe thunderstorms with loss of power summer or winter for days.

I am not a fan of heat, enjoy fall and snow, spouse can’t handle the cold. So here we are, but have multiple options

This is where we are in our thinking. We have 2 houses currently but will soon be 1, here. We plan to vacation in cooler climates for a few years and if 1 sticks we will get a 2nd house there. If we end up liking that place better it may become our primary and this would be the 2nd again. It maybe uproot and make that the primary, who knows.

[Maker]

Many people leave those states because of their oppressive politics and overly intrusive regulations.
The Florida weather could be a negative, but small in comparison to government nanny actions telling someone what they can and cannot do. (like ARC on steroids)

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by roguesearcher

Try the heat in TX. yikes!!!!

Austin, Tx. was 106 degrees 2 days ago.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by LeRoySmith

This is where we are in our thinking. We have 2 houses currently but will soon be 1, here. We plan to vacation in cooler climates for a few years and if 1 sticks we will get a 2nd house there. If we end up liking that place better it may become our primary and this would be the 2nd again. It maybe uproot and make that the primary, who knows.

There is a retirement area EAST of Seattle that has lots of sports activities. Sorry that's all I know. But. I imagine that it would be easy to Google it.

[LeRoySmith]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

There is a retirement area EAST of Seattle that has lots of sports activities. Sorry that's all I know. But. I imagine that it would be easy to Google it.

I've already live in Illinois, damned if I'll move to Washington.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Many of the people leaving Florida are leaving for the reasons you are expounding, Florida has gotten thick with population and it's no longer appealing. Not everyone loves living in congested areas and that's why some of our friends left.

I don't mind congested areas if there are things to do that would attract such congestion, and -practical- economical alternatives to driving.

Boston and Manhattan are such areas. You can live just outside these cities, and take a subway in, and get a monthly pass for unlimited use of the entire system (other than express buses which I believe cost extra). Crazy congested but it's walkable, there are TONS of things to do, with some of the best health care in the world, foodie heaven, music, drama, culture galore, libraries that'd knock your socks off, more museums than Vegas has casinos.

But yes both places are insanely congested. The congestion is part of the culture of living there. Compare to Florida, where congestion is not part of the culture, because there really isn't much culture at all.

[LeRoySmith]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

because there really isn't much culture at all.

I'm surprised so many cultured people move to a place without culture.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

There is a retirement area EAST of Seattle that has lots of sports activities. Sorry that's all I know. But. I imagine that it would be easy to Google it.

That’s pretty vague. We lived about 60 miles north of Seattle for 20 years before we moved here. When you say EAST of Seattle you must mean EAST of the Cascade Mountains. There is NOTHING on the west side of the mountains that can be considered anywhere near affordable. Granted Washington has no state income tax but Seattle’s sales tax is in the neighborhood of 10.5%. Property taxes are through the roof. Homeowner insurance is as bad as here due to the threat of earthquakes.
On the east side of the mountains is where all the wildland fires are. If you like high desert and endless wheat fields the east side is for you.