[Malsua]

Originally Posted by Danube

What you are saying is, if I, not a resident of De La Mesa, try to use that pool I will be asked to leave? By who's authority?

I don't think so.

The residents pay somewhere around $800 annually, maybe a touch more, per household for use of the space. This is on top of the regular amenities fee.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Danube

Wot? Now you're saying another(?) "Rio Gramnde" pool
is off-limits to
most residents
of TV? Or are
you talking
about Villa de la Mesa?
How is the exclusivity enforced? Will the sheriff come if a resident of Virginia Trace refuses to leave this pool?

I only know the pool is in the Village of Rio Grande. Everyone I know calls the pool private Rio Grande. This name was used when the pool and park were constructed. Older residents do not know it by any other name. I have no idea how it is enforced.

[Danube]

Originally Posted by Malsua

The residents pay somewhere around $800 annually, maybe a touch more, per household for use of the space. This is on top of the regular amenities fee.

Weird how no one can answer my question: How is the exclusivity enforced?

Makes me think the "exclusive pools" are just rumors to keep people away.

[Danube]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

I only know the pool is in the Village of Rio Grande. I have no idea how it is enforced.

Probably because it's not enforced / does not exist.

[Malsua]

Originally Posted by Danube

Weird how no one can answer my question: How is the exclusivity enforced?

Makes me think the "exclusive pools" are just rumors to keep people away.

I have a friend who lives in that community. He is out of town or I'd ask him.

I don't know if there are any others, but that pool at least does enforce membership payment. I don't know how, but I know for sure that they do. Otherwise few would pay for it and everyone would use it.

None of the other neighborhood pools are restricted like that one, specific pool. I'm pretty sure you get a pin on badge and you will be asked to leave if you don't have it. And yes, I'm pretty sure this will escalate all the way up to involving the cops.

[Malsua]

Here's the sign on the gate on either end.

"De Le Mesa Residents Only"

[Ken D.]

Originally Posted by fflmaster

I am sure this is discussed in Nauseam, but can’t seem to find much on a search with recent opinions.

I expect my wife and I will want to design our house vs purchase an already made and ready new home if we go in the new home direction.

However, looking at locations TV releases to build lots on the price can go from 5k to 200k.

I get the idea of pick what you can afford and want, but I am still the kind of person that needs to confirm value. Say, we decide to move to a new location in 10 years. I don’t want to loose 200k in value. Up North, the area and size of house would all be similar in price. View would not mean anything to valuation of sale.

So, do the golf course views really sell for 200k more than a same style home without the view? Or do you understand and accept a loss if you purchase the view?

We hit it right, beautiful golf course view, no worry about balls or carts near our home. Never hear mowers, but can see from afar.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Ken D.

We hit it right, beautiful golf course view, no worry about balls or carts near our home. Never hear mowers, but can see from afar.

Stunning! Now that's a view I would pay extra! You chose well.

[Kelevision]

The answers will be as follows… People who have a view lot will tell you yes, it’s worth it and people who don’t will say it’s not worth it. I don’t, I have a courtyard villa with a wall but, if money didn’t matter I’d have definitely gone with a view lot. No question. Then there’s which view. I personally, don’t care about a retention pond view and wouldn’t take that. I love the nature preserve views and/or marshland views. I don’t want golf course views because if I can see them, they can see me. I could NEVER live in anything with kissing lanais yet it doesn’t bother others. To each their own and only you can decided if it’s worth it.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Malsua

Here's the sign on the gate on either end.

"De Le Mesa Residents Only"

I wonder who put up that sign

[Ken D.]

Originally Posted by Kelevision

The answers will be as follows… People who have a view lot will tell you yes, it’s worth it and people who don’t will say it’s not worth it. I don’t, I have a courtyard villa with a wall but, if money didn’t matter I’d have definitely gone with a view lot. No question. Then there’s which view. I personally, don’t care about a retention pond view and wouldn’t take that. I love the nature preserve views and/or marshland views. I don’t want golf course views because if I can see them, they can see me. I could NEVER live in anything with kissing lanais yet it doesn’t bother others. To each their own and only you can decided if it’s worth it.

We can see them, but they cannot see us ������*♂️

[Tomptomp]

Unless you have lived on a golf course you don’t know what it’s like. I have a spectacular view and I love it. It GREAT !

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I wonder who put up that sign

I have lived in the area over 20 yrs. This pool and park has been private for 15 yrs, maybe a little longer. It was the first neighborhood that was built for lifestyle visits. At one time, the townhomes in Spanish Springs were also used for lifestyle visits. When the developer moved on, the upkeep for both areas became the responsibility of those who bought. I know for certain, the townhomes at Spanish Springs has an HOA. I heard there was an HOA in the area of the private pool and park. I have no idea if it is soley for the villa owners or the entire village. I believe the HOAs are the reason they can set their own rules.

Both areas were constructed 20 yrs ago. Schwartz was in charge. He did things differently than Gary Morse. No one should be annoyed by the perks from the past. The generation now in charge is providing perks in the newer areas. Change is good!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Tomptomp

Unless you have lived on a golf course you don’t know what it’s like. I have a spectacular view and I love it. It GREAT !

Agree 1,000,000%. I have a 180 degree view of a championship course with 3 water features in view. The cart path does not come close to my house, and since it is on the left side of the fairway and recessed a bit, I've never been hit to my knowledge, and have only found 2 balls in my yard in 11 years. This compares to the tens of thousands of balls sliced into the water on the right . Also, they rarely mow before 8AM, and I can't hear the choice words uttered on the tee. Probably in the top 2% of view lots in TV. Of course, these lot premiums aren't cheap. 11 years ago it was $175,000 and I can only imagine what a similar lot would go for today. Still, I wouldn't trade it for almost anything.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

I have lived in the area over 20 yrs. This pool and park has been private for 15 yrs, maybe a little longer. It was the first neighborhood that was built for lifestyle visits. At one time, the townhomes in Spanish Springs were also used for lifestyle visits. When the developer moved on, the upkeep for both areas became the responsibility of those who bought. I know for certain, the townhomes at Spanish Springs has an HOA. I heard there was an HOA in the area of the private pool and park. I have no idea if it is soley for the villa owners or the entire village. I believe the HOAs are the reason they can set their own rules.

Both areas were constructed 20 yrs ago. Schwartz was in charge and he did things differently than Gary Morse. No one should be annoyed by the perks from the past. The generation now in charge is providing perks in the newer areas. Change is good!

Wasn't aware of that. But I assume the litmus test is not whether there is an HOA, but whether or not general amenity fees are supporting the pool. Not that I care, I've never been in community pool in 11 years