[tvbound]

"Caveat emptor" will always apply. I personally go into every transaction with the attitude that even if the seller isn't overtly lying (even though so many do) about their product or services, they are almost always definitely not voluntarily offering the negatives (lying by omission) about what they're selling. Which is why, when it comes to buying something anyway, this is such a great time to be alive given that it is so easy to research and find out more about the seller, goods or services.

[kendi]

Originally Posted by blueash

In another thread a person suggested they were lied to about whether people under 55 could reside. That got me looking at the FAQ on Developer's website

FAQ | The Villages

While they don't exactly lie, they certainly get right up to the edge of lying. It makes me wonder why they bothered to post a FAQ if they didn't want to give a truly honest answer. The only possible reason is to mislead with a misleading answer. You think you've learned something about TV, but you've not had your question answered the way I believe it should be answered. Maybe I'm wrong about that...

Examples:
Does TV have their own Police Department? We all know the honest answer is NO. Is that the answer the FAQ gives? It is not. It gives a weasel answer that strongly suggests that the answer is yes..


The average person would very likely believe the word LOCAL means TV has a local force.


Is The Villages a city or a town?

The honest answer is NO. There is no citizen elected government in control. For good or for bad we are residents of a privately held corporation that sets the rules.



Again true, but they did not answer the question they posed. Misleading. We could well be a 55+ community in a city or in a town.

Even a simple question which is easily fact checked

How far is TV from Orlando?


Perhaps from the closest tip of Orlando to the closest part of TV it is 45 miles, but that is certainly misleading.

From Brownwood to MCO is 60 miles, to the Premium Outlet which you see from the Turnpike exit is 51 miles.

From Lake Sumter Landing add 6 miles, from Fenney Grill it is 49 miles to the Outlet.

I don't know why TV chose 45 miles as the distance from TV to Orlando for the FAQ, but it is a less than honest answer. If you just use Google and enter distance from The Villages to Orlando it gives 61.3 miles. That would have been an honest answer, or even round down to 60.

Weasel answers do not make The Villages look honest and trustworthy in their approach to potential buyers. How about giving a forthright answer rather than one which is as close to a lie as you can get without crossing the line?

These are not lies at all. I certainly do not interpret their wording as you do. Keep in mind you said "answered the way I think it should be answered." Did you take a poll to find out what the average person would think? I'm not so sure your your interpretation would be the same as the "average" person's.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

The entire state of Florida is a sinkhole zone.

And where we lived in middle Tennessee it is the same thing, many, many sinkholes.

[JohnN]

is the Pope a Catholic? Does a bear... well, you get it by now. Sure they lie.

[cegallup]

All PLUSSES and MINUSES of TV aside, the point of the original comment was . . . . seeking an Affirmative or Negative answer. All the rationalization and "SALES-TALK" does is to avoid the general nature of QUESTIONS. Yes or No. If a Buyer accepts fuzzy or misleading answers is something most of us have encountered. But it doesn't make the "answer" any more "honest".

[Carla B]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Regarding the apartments @ Hacienda:

At the time Hacienda was built (or being built) there were only two rec centers. That, and Paradise. Paradise was "built out" and the point of buying at the Villages was to be near recreation activities, amenities, that were being paid for monthly.

The rec center for that entire area of the Villages has been eliminated, and will not be replaced. In fact - not only will it not be replaced, but up to 300 more couples will be moving in and using up whatever is left of the recreational facilities in the area. They will have access to ALL the same amenities as people living in the houses next to it have. All, being more limited because the rec center no longer exists.

So you'll have to squeeze more people into other rec centers. You'll have to squeeze all the EXISTING residents into the other rec centers, plus an additional 300+ people who will occupy those apartments (most of them won't be moving in as singles, they'll be in as couples).

And of course the clubhouse restaurants that have already been getting the Hacienda patronage, will have to squeeze another 300+ customers into them.

That's fine in the summer when the snowbirds are up north. But imagine the traffic at the roundabout right next to the property there - when the snowbirds are down here for the winter.

Many of us chose the Villages over any other community to escape the "business" of cities and nearby suburbs. We wanted to get away from rush hour, to find that little "bubble" where we were isolated from those mundane inconveniences of life. That was what was sold to us, it's what we bought and in the case of Hacienda, it's what they paid extra for. It has been eliminated. What they paid extra for no longer exists, AND they're being told that they'll now have to share what little was left for them, with another 300+ people.

And they get zero say in the matter.

I understand your feelings completely, however, I think you may be confusing La Hacienda Regional rec center with Hacienda Country Club. This discussion is about the developer-owned country club, not the rec center. As far as I know, La Hacienda Regional Rec Center located closer to Spanish Springs remains intact.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by shut the front door

"Build out is in 2 years. You better buy now."
How many thousands fell for that BS?

Exactly ZERO contracts contained such a claim.