[Erijo]

Dear Bonanza, when homes were purchased here, the homeowner is made aware that fences are not permitted around homes, villas yes, but not homes. If this was going to be a foreseeable problem with the potential home owner, don't buy a home, buy a villa. If you have a dog, take the "no fences permitted around homes" into consideration. Simple as that! Please don't blame the builder/or deed restrictions by saying "if fences were permitted, this would solve the problem". The problem is dog owners who are rude and walk their dog on others property allowing them to "do their business."

Dear NJ! Well said, I agree.
There will ALWAYS be 2 very different opinions on this subject, dog owners versus non owners, plain and simple, and each thinks they are right.

[BogeyBoy]

In all of the years I have owned dogs and walked dogs I have never encountered homeowners so protective of their property. There are all kinds of wild critters roaming The Villages, I don't think they will be paying any attention to your colored stakes. Shame on the pet owner who does not clean up after the pet, but that is another topic. I think this thread is specifically about people who have zero tolerance for pets on their property. My question to them - how did you handle this issue where you lived before moving to TV? None of your neighbors had dogs?

[BogeyBoy]

Originally Posted by Erijo

There will ALWAYS be 2 very different opinions on this subject, dog owners versus non owners, plain and simple, and each thinks they are right.

I respectfully disagree - I know many non owners who could care less and many who like dogs but for various reasons do not own one.

I would bet that there are dog owners who do not want other dogs in their yard, especially if they have had problems with owners who do not pick up after the dog.

[Erijo]

Dear Bogey, all of our neighbors had dogs (we had a dog also) but the dogs do their business in your own back yard and believe me, the owners cleaned up after their dogs or suffered the consequences. ALL the homes were fenced in (Long Island, NY) and it wasn't an issue in my neighborhood. That's just the way it was.

[Erijo]

Dear Bogey, you are right, I should have said there will always be 2 very different opinions on this subject, not said owners vs non owners. Thanks.

[Happinow]

Originally Posted by Bonanza

I am amazed in reading that dog owners walk their dogs in other homeowners' back yards. I have not seen this in my area. It seems all you ever read about is how annoyed people get when a dog simply walks (not even poops or pees) on the grass across the front by the streeet, which is ridiculous.

Anyway, the real problem exists because we are not permitted to fence in our own back yards, or even a portion of it. That is what would solve a lot of problems. I have never understood why this is such a hard and fast rule. Even if the fence had to meet certain requirements as to type, etc., it would be a godsend to both dog owners and non-dog owners. That is what would help keep the peace.

What good would a fence do in a dog owners back yard? Fence or no fence they have to put them on a leash to walk them so why not just put them on a leash and walk them in your own back yard? Why do they have to have a fence? It's not about a fence it's about the homeowner taking them anywhere else other than their own yard to do their business. A fence isn't going to stop dog owners from walking their dogs, and let's face it if one wants to take their dog for a walk the dog is probably going to find a place on the route to pee whether they have a fenced in yard or not.

[njbchbum]

Bonanza - Where did you get the idea that the problem is with homeowner's back yards?

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by BogeyBoy

In all of the years I have owned dogs and walked dogs I have never encountered homeowners so protective of their property. There are all kinds of wild critters roaming The Villages, I don't think they will be paying any attention to your colored stakes. Shame on the pet owner who does not clean up after the pet, but that is another topic. I think this thread is specifically about people who have zero tolerance for pets on their property. My question to them - how did you handle this issue where you lived before moving to TV? None of your neighbors had dogs?

We lived on the Main Street of a development with 1400 homes. We had lots of dog walkers and a few did not clean up. I think there are a couple of reasons it seems there are more complainers here. First, more folks likely have time to walk pets than in family neighborhoods. Next, our lawns are very small and the so called trespassing is more obvious. The last reason is TOTV....people have a forum to be more vocal and we get to hear about it ......and hear about it ...and hear about it.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by Erijo

Dear Bogey, you are right, I should have said there will always be 2 very different opinions on this subject, not said owners vs non owners. Thanks.

Very good "correction", Erijo. :^)

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

Bonanza - Where did you get the idea that the problem is with homeowner's back yards?

Call it my misinterpretation of the word "yard!"
When I have used the word "yard," I think of it as the back of the house.
I don't think of a yard as being in the front, which is usually well planted and cared for.

Yes, the word "yard" encompasses an entire property. I'm wrong.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by Happinow

What good would a fence do in a dog owners back yard? Fence or no fence they have to put them on a leash to walk them so why not just put them on a leash and walk them in your own back yard? Why do they have to have a fence? It's not about a fence it's about the homeowner taking them anywhere else other than their own yard to do their business. A fence isn't going to stop dog owners from walking their dogs, and let's face it if one wants to take their dog for a walk the dog is probably going to find a place on the route to pee whether they have a fenced in yard or not.

Huh???

[fofd1091]

Simple get rid of all pets, Problem solved! LOL

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Happinow

What good would a fence do in a dog owners back yard? Fence or no fence they have to put them on a leash to walk them so why not just put them on a leash and walk them in your own back yard? Why do they have to have a fence? It's not about a fence it's about the homeowner taking them anywhere else other than their own yard to do their business. A fence isn't going to stop dog owners from walking their dogs, and let's face it if one wants to take their dog for a walk the dog is probably going to find a place on the route to pee whether they have a fenced in yard or not.

Hi Happinow: I have come to realize in the last few months that you and I think alike. Clearly this is not about the need for fences its about the fact that some dog owners do not like to deal with the consequences of bringing a dog to The Villages.

One poster said this is the only place I've been whee people are so protective of their property.... This is a retirement community most people who move here left behind the responsibility of kids, cooking taking care of pets etc. so having to deal with other resident's pets is no going to sit well with them

[janmcn]

Some posters think the louder they scream, the fewer dog owners will move here. On the other hand, The Villages has a boatload of houses to sell and no way are they going to alienate and eliminate the pet lovers from their customer base.

[scarecrow1]

I use to do street construction and I think there is a right away that you maintain only and it goes into most properties. Therefore no one is trespassing on anyone's property. Can we stop with the dog posts for a while and have a rest please!!!