[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Once again - you are wrong.


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I'm wrong for agreeing with someone else's analysis? Go figure...

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by tvbound

While you make some good points, I think the difference between those black artists and today's rap/hip-hop is in the perception of the "type" of music. When Hendrix/Aretha/Otis/Marvin et. al. recorded their great songs, it wasn't considered "black music" - just rock-n-roll performed by black artists.

Whereas today, in a certain demographic's minds especially, rap is considered black music. As I mentioned, there are some very talented rap poets/prophets/artists that are recording how life is still very lopsided against minorities and equal rights have not been achieved for minorities. Which is the same subject that strongly triggers those who become militant - against teaching actual/real history.

The following is a quote from Wikipedia's treatise on Rock and Roll.. the entirety of which can be found here: Origins of rock and roll - Wikipedia
"Fats Domino was not convinced that there was any new genre. In 1957, Domino said: "What they call rock 'n' roll now is rhythm and blues. I’ve been playing it for 15 years in New Orleans".[56] According to Rolling Stone, "this is a valid statement ... all Fifties rockers, black and white, country born and city bred, were fundamentally influenced by R&B, the black popular music of the late Forties and early Fifties".[57]

In essence, all R&R was, at one time, considered "Black" music, or to use the term of the 1950s, "Negro Music". As such it was widely vilified among white-run media outlets.

The Black artists you mention were largely Motown artists. The Motown label was created and founded by a Black man, the songs were written by Black people, the recordings produced by Black people, and the sound derived predominantly from Black Gospel Music.

Your point that they weren't making "Black" music, but were Black people just making rock and roll makes no sense in the context of when it was being created.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Laker14

The following is a quote from Wikipedia's treatise on Rock and Roll.. the entirety of which can be found here: Origins of rock and roll - Wikipedia
"Fats Domino was not convinced that there was any new genre. In 1957, Domino said: "What they call rock 'n' roll now is rhythm and blues. I’ve been playing it for 15 years in New Orleans".[56] According to Rolling Stone, "this is a valid statement ... all Fifties rockers, black and white, country born and city bred, were fundamentally influenced by R&B, the black popular music of the late Forties and early Fifties".[57]

In essence, all R&R was, at one time, considered "Black" music, or to use the term of the 1950s, "Negro Music". As such it was widely vilified among white-run media outlets.

The Black artists you mention were largely Motown artists. The Motown label was created and founded by a Black man, the songs were written by Black people, the recordings produced by Black people, and the sound derived predominantly from Black Gospel Music.

Your point that they weren't making "Black" music, but were Black people just making rock and roll makes no sense in the context of when it was being created.

Once again, an excellent analysis...

I shall now await to be told I'm wrong...

[dhdallas]

You mean there are actually people who still listen to a radio? No way! I just heard that there are even some who listen to CD's too. Amazing! I bet the radio listeners still have one of those tape things under their TV...I think they were called VCR's! I met someone the other day who still had cable TV, had to wait for their shows that only came on at a certain time, and then were forced to watch commercials every few minutes! Crazy!

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Once again, an excellent analysis...

I shall now await to be told I'm wrong...

you're wrong. Oh wait...I'm not supposed to say that when you agree with me...
(knee jerk reaction, I guess...)

[Bilyclub]

The same suspects keeping a dead thread alive.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

The same suspects keeping a dead thread alive.

recovery day for me, from pickleball, golf, and swimming. I'm bored.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

The same suspects keeping a dead thread alive.

The same suspects keep complaining about things that don't concern them...

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

The same suspects keeping a dead thread alive.

Only 5 posts gotta stop goofing off

[doctorknow]

Yes the music has changed over the years from the 50's and 60's to more of an upbeat 70's and 80's. All part of marketing I am sure. Also with the relatively new addition of two FM radio frequencies to increase WVLG's listening audience you must know that the radio station is not just a
Village audience. I was listening to WVLG on my car radio quite a distance away from the Villages. The surrounding communities now have the pleasure of listening. This means the marketing must include more of a diverse audience as well as the aging issue.

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by doctorknow

Yes the music has changed over the years from the 50's and 60's to more of an upbeat 70's and 80's. All part of marketing I am sure. Also with the relatively new addition of two FM radio frequencies to increase WVLG's listening audience you must know that the radio station is not just a
Village audience. I was listening to WVLG on my car radio quite a distance away from the Villages. The surrounding communities now have the pleasure of listening. This means the marketing must include more of a diverse audience as well as the aging issue.

Unless somethings changed, 930 watts AM and 250 watts FM is a pretty weak signal.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by doctorknow

Yes the music has changed over the years from the 50's and 60's to more of an upbeat 70's and 80's. All part of marketing I am sure. Also with the relatively new addition of two FM radio frequencies to increase WVLG's listening audience you must know that the radio station is not just a
Village audience. I was listening to WVLG on my car radio quite a distance away from the Villages. The surrounding communities now have the pleasure of listening. This means the marketing must include more of a diverse audience as well as the aging issue.

The listening audience is any potential Villages home buyer, or any existing Villager who might be looking to sell their home and relocate within the Villages. The reason the station had to add another frequency is because the Villages became to geographically large to be covered by one signal.

[JerryLBell]

For a lot of people, the only good music is the music they listened to in high school. For others, it's the music they listened to in college. If you really liked music, you may have kept up with popular new musicians for a few years after that and maybe drifted away from the new stuff as you got into your career and/or raising kids. If we assume the retirement age to be 66, that would mean a high school graduation year of about 1972 or a college graduation year of around 1976 for new retirees. Add a few years to that for those that kept going to dance clubs or concerts. So we're talking "peak" music for new retirees of being the 1970s to early 1980s. Guess what "new" genre came out around then? Rap! New retirees coming to The Villages have actually listened to rap and hip-hop and some of them actually like it! If WVLG has a mission to play the music us retirees like, they need to continue progressing through the ages into newer musical styles or they will fall back and only appeal to the older demographic in The Villages. So, good for them for mixing in "newer" (though hardly "new") styles along with the "oldies" from the 50s and 60s.

[Gator_Girl]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

Have you been to a Spazmatics performance in the square? They usually play a couple of rap songs and the crowd loves it! It's just a song, and probably only lasts a few minutes.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Gator_Girl

Have you been to a Spazmatics performance in the square? They usually play a couple of rap songs and the crowd loves it! It's just a song, and probably only lasts a few minutes.

A total waste of the Hooligans talents.