New Gate to be placed. Wall will be removed.

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Default New Gate to be placed. Wall will be removed.

Read this morning's Daily Sun. Article from VHA president in Local. Resolution did take more than 48 hours. Pays to be patient.

Can someone take a picture of that article and post it here for people off campus? My camera battery just died.
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.... copied post to existing cart path closing thread
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Too bad they didn't come to this resolution before some idiot sprayed their view on the wall.
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And to give credit to the VHA - please!!! This organization has done nothing for the residents and I feel this was a staged event to give them credit where none was deserved. It took them four days to even mention this in the paper when the wall was one of the biggest events in our area since the Moffett mess. I smell something very fishy here. If the useless VHA expects my gratitude, they are in for a disappointment.
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And to give credit to the VHA - please!!! This organization has done nothing for the residents and I feel this was a staged event to give them credit where none was deserved. It took them four days to even mention this in the paper when the wall was one of the biggest events in our area since the Moffett mess. I smell something very fishy here. If the useless VHA expects my gratitude, they are in for a disappointment.
Not surprised at your response. The rest of us can come to our own conclusions. I think Village07's idea about Morse closing it just before the meeting with Fruitland Park may have been the issue since the wall was installed just prior to that meeting with the Fruitland Park officials and Fruitland Park might have wanted access to Colony via golf cart and could site the open gate on Paradise Trail.. We may never know.

He still may be Attilla the Hun. He may have caved due to pressure and outcry but the folks who needed to go to work and to the doctors and to Walmart in their carts will soon be able to do so.

All's well, that ends well.
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And to give credit to the VHA - please!!! This organization has done nothing for the residents and I feel this was a staged event to give them credit where none was deserved. It took them four days to even mention this in the paper when the wall was one of the biggest events in our area since the Moffett mess. I smell something very fishy here. If the useless VHA expects my gratitude, they are in for a disappointment.
What can one possibly say in response to this?

"The VHA is useless. If they did have anything to do with this, we shouldn't give them any credit because the whole thing was staged to make them look like they did something. It had to be that way because as we all know, the VHA is useless."

You've pretty much got it covered no matter what happens.

The term circular reasoning come into my mind for some reason.
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Is the deal finalized? I read it as a "proposal". The whole debacle has a very "odd" flavor, that's for sure..I don't see any gain from this for anyone, other than to formally restrict access, which to me, is a good thing. Sure left a bad taste in my mouth and raises a lot of trust issues in the way it was carried out. I know that Morse is a quiet man who keeps things close to his chest, but he definitely needs a good PR person, cause this just stunk from the start to finish, if it is finished. I definitely don't trust the VHA, just another bunch of bought and paid for politicians as far as I'm concerned.
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I don't trust the POA either. I want a new one without bias.
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I wonder who ultimately pays for the wall construction and removal
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I wonder who ultimately pays for the wall construction and removal
You need to move here to see that it cannot be part of our amenity fees.
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How shrewd is this, he took lemons and made lemonade! Ya gotta tip your hat to the guy.
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All's well, that ends well.
And I am not surprised by your response as well.
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Is the deal finalized? I read it as a "proposal".

From the newspaper article, it appears to be very much just a proposal at this stage. If it does go through then that would be excellent.

Sure, the whole thing may be a stunt by the VHA, or a way for the developer to quietly back down after so much negative reaction without losing face, but does that really matter?

If we get our cart path back then let's put this behind us and head off to Aldi.



I did like the other related story in the Daily Sun - "the police have noticed golf carts being driven alongside 441".

No explanation as to why golf carts have suddenly appeared there, of course.
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I did like the other related story in the Daily Sun - "the police have noticed golf carts being driven alongside 441".

No explanation as to why golf carts have suddenly appeared there, of course.
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What an incredibly ill-conceived solution. Using Gottschalk’s logic, allow me to restate his solution:

This VHA-proposed solution will allow TV residents unfettered access to non-resident facilities, while at the same time denying non-residents access to ‘our’ facilities.

Can any of you who have voiced your outrage at cart path closing and its egregious denial of access to public facilities honestly say that you think this is a fair and equitable solution to all those affected by the path closure?

Furthermore, Gottschalk’s accusations are blatantly false. The golf cart bridge over 441 was approved by the state and built and maintained by Morse commercial entities, not amenity funds. So Stonecrest residents can drive through Orange Blossom Hills, over the bridge and to all of the medical and retail facilities along the west side of 441 without ever setting foot on amenity supported paths or facilities. Who does he think he’s fooling?

Now if the reason for the wall being erected was concern for liability (an often used legal smokescreen), then why not propose to have Morse donate the homesite to the town of Lady Lake or Lake county, thereby making it an extension of Paradise Drive.
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