[dbussone]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

Right. And the person who gives the shot at Walgreens or Target Pharmacy, in the event of a reaction and bad result for the patient, will be held to the standards required of them in the licensed position they are in, i.e. pharmacy technician.....while the physician in her practice as an MD will be held to the standards required of her as an MD.

In FL it is the pharmacist who gives the shots - flu, shingles, pneumonia, etc. I believe it is the same in other states, and typically they take additional training to do this.

[Justus]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

Sounds like prejudice to me. I wonder if it would be the same "turnoff" if she were wearing a burka or were wearing a Star of David pendant necklace.

Thanks for voicing my thoughts.

[mickey100]

There is a difference between a simple unobtrusive pendant vs. numerous Biblical references hanging on the wall , bibles throughout the office and waiting room, etc.,etc., etc.I think religion is a personal thing, and as a non religious person I don't appreciate it all being being shoved in my face. As I said, her credentials are very good and I would expect her to be quite competent. I choose to go to a doctor that isn't overtly trying to send sort of religious message to the patient. I had a different doctor that made a point of expressing his political views in an attempt to convert me. I find that type of behavior inappropriate for the office. I don't care to have a doctor with an agenda. My preference.

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by mickey100

There is a difference between a simple unobtrusive pendant vs. numerous Biblical references hanging on the wall , bibles throughout the office and waiting room, etc.,etc., etc.I think religion is a personal thing, and as a non religious person I don't appreciate it all being being shoved in my face.

As I said, her credentials are very good and I would expect her to be quite competent. I choose to go to a doctor that isn't overtly trying to send sort of religious message to the patient. I had a different doctor that made a point of expressing his political views in an attempt to convert me. I find that type of behavior inappropriate for the office. I don't care to have a doctor with an agenda. My preference.

I agree it's disturbing and even angering if a doctor or other professional "makes a point of expressing his political views in an attempt to convert" me.

However, that's quite different from having Christian quotes/verses on the wall and having Bibles on the waiting room tables. Those are there to look at, or not look at, just as a doctor's framed medical license, residency diploma, and medical diploma are there on the wall or might be listed in a brochure.

They are there to tell an interested looker/reader some of the main tenets and education/training that are a large part of the doctor's personal and professional formation.

I have had doctors/specialists from India and other foreign nations and my doctor I've had the longest is Jewish. If they have a Hindu or Jewish or other symbol or quote of wisdom/teaching on the wall, I don't get all offended and assume that they are trying to "convert" me, a Christian, to their religion.

Those things are there as illustrations of how they think and what they believe. It's a free country, and if a patient doesn't like what that person believes, the patient can choose to leave and go elsewhere.

So far, I've never thought about leaving my doctors because of their vastly different religious beliefs. I don't fear hearing/seeing opinions or beliefs that differ from mine. My mind can freely accept or decline to accept things that don't register with my beliefs or factual knowledge. That's the beauty of the human mind, unless it's been brainwashed.

On the other hand, if they speak political views in order to "convert" me, I hope I would learn a little more about them to know whether they were trying to "convert" me, or whether they are just expressing frustration with the way they cannot practice the way they were trained to do and want to do, due to the adversarial medico-legal climate, and the growing insurance/government bureaucratic control climate. They might speak those frustrations with politicians as a way of making it known they might soon quit practicing medicine altogether, because they've had it with the ruin they see going on.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by pqrstar

Walgreens pharmacy gives the shingle shots and all you have to do is fill out a consent form.

https://www.walgreens.com/images/pdf...0172013_v1.pdf

But you do have to have a doctor's order.

[claricecolin]

Originally Posted by pqrstar

Walgreens pharmacy gives the shingle shots and all you have to do is fill out a consent form.

https://www.walgreens.com/images/pdf...0172013_v1.pdf

When Dad got his shingles shot at Walgreens they did ask him to stay in store for about an hour to make sure he didn't have any type of reaction.

[queasy27]

I see another one who's waiting room is filled with junk...so much junk. Statues, fake flowers, tables and tables of books, magazines, literature, so much stuff. And it's dirty and dusty.

Drs. Chin and Harding, perhaps, with all the cat tchotkes? Or Dr. Hamnik? I felt a little suffocated in both offices due to the amount of clutter.

Do messy surroundings and a disheveled appearance necessarily indicate a disordered mind? Perhaps not, but running a clean, neat and orderly office is a sign of efficiency and indicates to me that care is being taken with details big and small.

[red tail]

I was dumped by eberuche and im not touching where my files were sent with a 10 ft pole. I have joined the villages health and it really looks good to me.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

But you do have to have a doctor's order.

Not in NC, Gracie. But I won't swear to that in FL.

[Shimpy]

???

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Not in NC, Gracie. But I won't swear to that in FL.

I'm not sure either.

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

But you do have to have a doctor's order.

NO, only $450 for wife and I.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Shimpy

NO, only $450 for wife and I.

Are you not medicare age? Our was very cheap with our doctor's order. I remember this discussion before.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

I agree it's disturbing and even angering if a doctor or other professional "makes a point of expressing his political views in an attempt to convert" me.

However, that's quite different from having Christian quotes/verses on the wall and having Bibles on the waiting room tables. Those are there to look at, or not look at, just as a doctor's framed medical license, residency diploma, and medical diploma are there on the wall or might be listed in a brochure.

They are there to tell an interested looker/reader some of the main tenets and education/training that are a large part of the doctor's personal and professional formation.

I have had doctors/specialists from India and other foreign nations and my doctor I've had the longest is Jewish. If they have a Hindu or Jewish or other symbol or quote of wisdom/teaching on the wall, I don't get all offended and assume that they are trying to "convert" me, a Christian, to their religion.

Those things are there as illustrations of how they think and what they believe. It's a free country, and if a patient doesn't like what that person believes, the patient can choose to leave and go elsewhere.

So far, I've never thought about leaving my doctors because of their vastly different religious beliefs. I don't fear hearing/seeing opinions or beliefs that differ from mine. My mind can freely accept or decline to accept things that don't register with my beliefs or factual knowledge. That's the beauty of the human mind, unless it's been brainwashed.

On the other hand, if they speak political views in order to "convert" me, I hope I would learn a little more about them to know whether they were trying to "convert" me, or whether they are just expressing frustration with the way they cannot practice the way they were trained to do and want to do, due to the adversarial medico-legal climate, and the growing insurance/government bureaucratic control climate. They might speak those frustrations with politicians as a way of making it known they might soon quit practicing medicine altogether, because they've had it with the ruin they see going on.

Part of it is the extent of religious literature, symbols, paraphernalia, etc. displayed in the office. There was no way to avoid it. In my opinion it was way, way over the top, more than I've ever seen at a doctor's office. I declined to register it for the couple of visits I had to the office, but it really made me uncomfortable. She is certainly welcome to her views, as is anyone who has religious beliefs, but again, as a non-believer, I don't think that religion has a place in the doctor/patient relationship. Also by hawking all that Christianity, how does that make patients feel that are Muslim or some other denomination? Probably as uncomfortable as I feel. I think politics and religion are private. Anyways, just wanted to point out this aspect of her practice to the OP. I did exercise my right to choose, and chose another physician, who I really like. Strictly business, no politics or religion!

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Are you not medicare age? Our was very cheap with our doctor's order. I remember this discussion before.

Yes medicare age. Walgreens said doesn't cover. Maybe with a doctors order it would be different?