[AzAuSenior]

Originally Posted by golfnut

What does a suspicious drone look like, as opposed to a legitimate one?

A suspicious drone comes over the wall around TV late at night and flies above the houses and the yards of the residences on TV perimeter with the camera on and no lights at an altitude of approximately 100 ft. This seems to be just right for casing houses and not for recreational flying.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by triflex

I was playing golf early one morning and looked up and there was a fella in his lanai smoking a cigar. The only thing he was wearing was his cigar. He puffed away like he was commander of the universe. A real porch pioneer he was.

He had the mindset of Lewis and Clark and the body of Homer Simpson. $1M+ house too.

Buck naked posh-porch-pioneers don't care about your drone.

That is the anti drone response club.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by AzAuSenior

A suspicious drone comes over the wall around TV late at night and flies above the houses and the yards of the residences on TV perimeter with the camera on and no lights at an altitude of approximately 100 ft. This seems to be just right for casing houses and not for recreational flying.

Height is very hard to judge. Sadly privacy is lost and was lost a long time ago.
People do not realize our government has satellites where the video is so good they can read your license plates.

[Goldwingnut]

Originally Posted by rockyhyder

We had a drone in our neighborhood for a while. It’s like living with a peeping Tom! I contacted everyone I could think of and was basically told TV has no rules against drones. The Sheriff had a detective call me to get enough info to check the guys license status. I started documenting every fly over near my house with cell phone video, building a case file of evidence to eventually get the guys license revoked, have him arrested, sue him or get the law changed. Don Wylie (the nut with a gold wing) was no help, he gave nothing but reasons why drones can fly legally, and the federal law is not nearly as liberal as he claims. My advice, read the federal law yourself so you understand what is legal and not, start documenting the flights and contact the Sheriffs Office to get a case file started. It will take a little time but you will eventually get the right video and with the right lawyer and circumstances you might even get a nice paycheck.

If you want to insult me at least have the courtesy to spell my name right.
I am more familiar and aware of what the state and federal laws are concerning sUAS operations than all but maybe one or two living in The Villages.

I remember the correspondence with you, I may still have the video you shot that the District Staff forwarded to me and asked me to address. Nothing shown in the video was or is illegal as I tried to explain to you.

What is legal is legal, even if you don't like it. Just because you disagree or don't like something doesn't make it illegal. If someone is doing something that is illegal with a sUAS, I will be the first to jump onboard, help get it documented, and help you get the idiot pilot grounded and fined. The FAA will step in when there are illegal activities that are adequately documented, local law enforcement has very little jurisdiction in these matters.

By the way, no "license" is required under either state or federal law to operate a sUAS for recreational purposes. To operate for commercial purposes a Remote Pilot Certificate for Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems is required, it is not a "license". Had you taken the time to read 14CRF107 for what it said instead of what you wanted it to say, you would have known even this most basic of information.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

By the way, no "license" is required under either state or federal law to operate a sUAS for recreational purposes. To operate for commercial purposes a Remote Pilot Certificate for Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems is required, it is not a "license".

Yea, I sit corrected on that. I call it a license because I keep relating it to the Ham Radio license I got about 60 years ago except that test seemed easy since they didn't care what the weather was at 20,000 feet or what an aircraft at 15,000 feet was experiencing. Although the certificate does give you privileges or "license (verb OR synonym)" to do things you can't without it.

[jrref]

I still feel you need to prove intent. Dones typically can fly only about 30 minutes on one battery and if it's not high up in the sky or in line of site the operator has to be fairly close and thus easy to find. I would think if you see a low flying drone over your house every night you could easily find the operator and report them to the FAA assuming they were doing something malicious or illegal. They FAA can and will take action if there is a problem.

Conserning "spying" and malicious activity you have to remember the controller needs to communicate with the Drone and it can't do that very well if it's not high enough in the sky or with in visual line of site. You can't fly a drone at 10 - 20 ft down the back yards of a long row of homes for example to without being fairly close. And if you are flying a drone legally it shouldn't be flying over people, golf carts, the turnpike or following people and or cars for example and if it's high in the sky it's not going to be peering into your windows or causing a disturbance. As Don suggests, look at the basic rules for Recreational Drone flying and you will see common sense prevales and it's not very difficult to determine whether someone is flying a Drone legally or not. Again if you have a neighbor who is flying legally but causing a disturbance it's best just to ask them not to fly over your house and property and i'm sure they will comply.

[Dennys37Packard]

Originally Posted by AzAuSenior

We now have a drone in our neighborhood. We live near the perimeter of TV and the drone may be from outside TV. Drones legally are usually considered aircraft and may not be interfered with through illumination, jamming, spoofing, etc. Some associations have flyover restrictions. Does anyone know if TV has flyover restrictions; or, if not, are any flyover restrictions in process? Alternatively, what does Florida law allow for residents to protect against the invasion of privacy by drone overflights? Any comments on drone use by Villagers and Non-villagers over and around TV, particularly against clandestine drone use?

I’m sure there is no invasion of privacy. Most consumer drones are for fun. They can’t peer in windows nor can they see who you are from up high. It’s probably someone learning how to fly, taking aerial sunset photos or seeing what the night looks like from above. And yes, some drug stores are testing them, UPS uses them in certain areas and Amazon will eventually use them. Go visit the Villages Drone club and see exactly what you can and cannot see with them. That should calm your nerves. Most people that are worried, have no clue of their limitations.

[Luggage]

If a drone falls from the sky into your backyard. Do you return it or keep it or trash it question I wonder what some people would do?

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Luggage

If a drone falls from the sky into your backyard. Do you return it or keep it or trash it question I wonder what some people would do?

If no one is around, does it make any noise??

[davem4616]

Originally Posted by Luggage

If a drone falls from the sky into your backyard. Do you return it or keep it or trash it question I wonder what some people would do?

I suspect that the drone operator would have a good idea where the thing landed...

I'd most likely not be aware that a drone had fallen on my property, unless I was outside, or it hit the house.

So the question I have is... would the drone owner be bold enough to just walk onto your property to retrieve it?

What if the drone was on your roof?

that said...the chance of this happening is very slim

[rockyhyder]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

If you want to insult me at least have the courtesy to spell my name right.
I am more familiar and aware of what the state and federal laws are concerning sUAS operations than all but maybe one or two living in The Villages.

I remember the correspondence with you, I may still have the video you shot that the District Staff forwarded to me and asked me to address. Nothing shown in the video was or is illegal as I tried to explain to you.

What is legal is legal, even if you don't like it. Just because you disagree or don't like something doesn't make it illegal. If someone is doing something that is illegal with a sUAS, I will be the first to jump onboard, help get it documented, and help you get the idiot pilot grounded and fined. The FAA will step in when there are illegal activities that are adequately documented, local law enforcement has very little jurisdiction in these matters.

By the way, no "license" is required under either state or federal law to operate a sUAS for recreational purposes. To operate for commercial purposes a Remote Pilot Certificate for Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems is required, it is not a "license". Had you taken the time to read 14CRF107 for what it said instead of what you wanted it to say, you would have known even this most basic of information.

Didn’t mean to misspell your name so may I refer to you as Mr Nut. What I was pointing out to the OP is that your information is biased and shouldn’t be taken as the whole truth and nothing but. You may know the rules well but there are differing legal opinions out there and just because you think you know it all doesn’t make it true (just like when you challenged the trail fee allotment and almost screwed the Executive courses over in the process). You keep preaching your interpretation to the drone club and I’ll keep documenting drones compromising business interest, capturing images on private property without consent and impeding the flow of traffic because eventually the damage will be addressed by the Courts.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Luggage

If a drone falls from the sky into your backyard. Do you return it or keep it or trash it question I wonder what some people would do?

Originally Posted by dewilson58

If no one is around, does it make any noise??

If a man speaks in the forest, and his wife isn't around to hear him, is he still wrong?

[Bob McKeever]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

There goes skinny dipping in the pool.

That problem is self rectifying. Anybody that sees me naked will never want to fly near my house again!

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by rockyhyder

Didn’t mean to misspell your name so may I refer to you as Mr Nut. What I was pointing out to the OP is that your information is biased and shouldn’t be taken as the whole truth and nothing but. You may know the rules well but there are differing legal opinions out there and just because you think you know it all doesn’t make it true (just like when you challenged the trail fee allotment and almost screwed the Executive courses over in the process). You keep preaching your interpretation to the drone club and I’ll keep documenting drones compromising business interest, capturing images on private property without consent and impeding the flow of traffic because eventually the damage will be addressed by the Courts.

A wise person shared this with me, maybe you will find the same wisdom in these words. “He who angers you controls you”.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

Yea, I sit corrected on that. I call it a license because I keep relating it to the Ham Radio license I got about 60 years ago except that test seemed easy since they didn't care what the weather was at 20,000 feet or what an aircraft at 15,000 feet was experiencing. Although the certificate does give you privileges or "license (verb OR synonym)" to do things you can't without it.

Hey, Ed, whatever that piece of paper is called, when I read that you are studying for it, your post caused me to nag Mr. Boomer.

Mr. Boomer is a licensed, single-engine pilot, with an instrument rating, and a seaplane rating.

He bought a drone a while back. It cost a few bucks. (I don’t really want to know how much. It is the third drone he has owned so it definitely looks like an upgrade from the two he has given away. The first one was basically a toy, but that was years ago.) Anyway, he does not fly it much.

Last year, a wicked storm hit our northern neighborhood and caused a lot of roof damage. Some of the neighbors asked him to take some roof pictures for them. He did.

Even though he did not even consider charging for those pictures — and he never would, I would feel better if he covered his drone flying with the official paperwork.

So I just now asked him about this course.

Turns out he had already downloaded it from King Schools, just had not done anything with it yet. He said what pilots have to know for their licenses gives him a head start on the drone course.

Btw, he has 3 — I think it’s 3 — ham radio licenses. Some of the single-engine pilots we know also have ham licenses.

Now, go study! Both of you.

Boomer