[Gpsma]

I made a nice indigeonous stew of elk meat….bought from a place in orlando

I also reflected anout history…and regret that i have lived in homes on land stolen.

I also prayed about the evils of chistopher columbus

But whether its columbus day or imdigenous peoples day..we all need to celebrate our heritage

[ThirdOfFive]

Why is it so important to celebrate where we come from?

Isn't it far more important to concentrate on where we're going?

[Tvflguy]

Had some Indian food.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

I made a nice indigeonous stew of elk meat….bought from a place in orlando

I also reflected anout history…and regret that i have lived in homes on land stolen.

I also prayed about the evils of chistopher columbus

But whether its columbus day or imdigenous peoples day..we all need to celebrate our heritage

I honored Christopher Columbus and his brave crew, as well as Isabella and Ferdinand for sending him. I then ate AMERICAN food on the land THAT I OWN and reflected on the absurdity of revisionist history on COLUMBUS DAY.

[Stu from NYC]

Visited our daughter

[Stu from NYC]

Next year will have corn on the cob.
Why do we not credit the vikings?

[JerryLBell]

I celebrated by having a nice conversation with an old friend of mine who is of indigenous ancestry. He told me he celebrated by going into a white guys house, planting a flag and claiming the lands on which the house stood as property of his nation's people.

When we lived closer together, we would celebrate by going to an Indian restaurant and ordering buffalo and maize (corn) but usually had to settle for Chicken Tika Marsala or some such.

Columbus certainly didn't discover the Americas (and thought he'd been to India several times) and open a path or horrific atrocities agains the peoples of these continents, but I'm selfishly glad enough the he opened up to Europeans so that I was able to be born here as an American. Still, a true understanding of our history is so embarassing and shameful that it's no wonder that some folks can't bear to teach even a fraction of it to the children of this country and claim any attempt to do so is part of some radical "woke" agenda. Some people say slavery is the original American sin. What does that make the genocide of the peoples of these lands that preceded the enslavement of kidnapped Africans? The "pre-original" sin?

Gee, that went dark in a hurry, didn't it? I guess I'm depressed over what's happening in Israel and Gaza. And what's continuing to happen in Ukraine. It is all giving me a bit of a dim view of the world at the moment.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Next year will have corn on the cob.
Why do we not credit the vikings?

Actually I used to enjoy Indian fry bread at the New Mexico State Fair. Authentic Indian Fry Bread

Yes, the Norsemen were likely the first Europeans to set foot in North America but they did not stick around.

As I understand it the Americas were initially settled by people migrating from Asia across the Bering Strait which may have been bridged by ice or land strips from time to time. They arrived in waves over thousands of years. Recently discovered footprints at White Sands National Monument appear to predate the consensus as to when the Americas were first settled by Homo sapiens.

White Sands fossil footprints challenge notions about human history : NPR

Who knows if today's American Indian population descended from the earliest waves or whether consequential waves wiped them out or partially absorbed them. Maybe someday it will become understood.

[Two Bills]

I feel no guilt or remorse for the perceived crimes of my ancestors.
What they did then was the norm for those times.
Looking at the pictures coming out of Ukraine, Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, human behavior hasn't progressed much either
Mind you, we have improved, because we can do it on a much bigger scale, and more efficiently than our ancestors could have ever dreamed possible!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

I made a nice indigeonous stew of elk meat….bought from a place in orlando

I also reflected anout history…and regret that i have lived in homes on land stolen.

I also prayed about the evils of chistopher columbus

But whether its columbus day or imdigenous peoples day..we all need to celebrate our heritage

So, where do you think you can live where land wasn’t stolen at one time or another?

Hasn’t it been proven Columbus wasn’t first to discover America? What about Viking day? Before long there won’t be enough days to celebrate anymore.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

I feel no guilt or remorse for the perceived crimes of my ancestors.
What they did then was the norm for those times.
Looking at the pictures coming out of Ukraine, Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, human behavior hasn't progressed much either
Mind you, we have improved, because we can do it on a much bigger scale, and more efficiently than our ancestors could have ever dreamed possible!

Genghiskhan khan done pretty good job. And Spain done pretty good job on South America.

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Genghiskhan khan done pretty good job. And Spain done pretty good job on South America.

Human beings are omnivores, eat whatever they (we) can get , including somebody else's lunch, take advantage of other groups disadvantaged situation, competition thins the herd and sharpens the predatory instinct

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

Human beings are omnivores, eat whatever they (we) can get , including somebody else's lunch, take advantage of other groups disadvantaged situation, competition thins the herd and sharpens the predatory instinct

We do share some pretty questionable attributes with the other primates. Plotting to take something that isn't ours is just one.

Some years back my wife and I were vacationing with "the family" (20 or so people including the kids) on the southern coast of Thailand. Beautiful setting: mountainous rain forests, several resorts. Also quite a few macaque monkeys. We rented a compound of three cabins: it was late morning after breakfast and we were all outside when a troop of macaques showed up. Maybe 10-15 including a couple of very young ones, cute as hell. They stayed just behind the trees surrounding the compound, watching us. We tossed some tidbits to the little ones who showed no fear at all, coming almost up to us to get the stuff. The adults stayed back though, all except one, looked to be the guy in charge, perched on the roof of one of the cabins looking for all the world like Yogi Berra crouched behind the plate. We tossed some balls of rice to him which he adeptly caught and ate. Great fun. We took some pictures.

Just before noon we menfolk went on a beer run. According to the women, as soon as we left the monkeys swooped on in, chased the women and kids into the cabins and gorged on everything left out on the tables.

Never yet met a monkey that I trusted.

[asianthree]

I visited the mounded graves of my great grandmother, her mother, and her two sisters. My great grandfathers body was never found, so we are sure he roams freely.
I remember my great grandmother and her horrible memories of finding her two aunts hanging in the barn from the rafters, cause they were native.

I was raised with knowledge of herbs, and treated with guidance from a shaman. Never saw a physician until I was 18.

The cemetery has remained the same for multi generations. I think of them with every sunrise.

The wrought iron gate still lists it as the Red cemetery, next to the beloved Coon cemetery.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Why is it so important to celebrate where we come from?

Isn't it far more important to concentrate on where we're going?

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905.

and later:

In a 1948 speech to the British House of Commons, Winston Churchill said, “Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

It's pointless to concentrate on where you're going, if you aren't interested in understanding where you came from.