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biker1 04-14-2022 07:03 PM

You can buy electric cars for less than $80K. You can also spend more than $80K. That is also true for gas cars.

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2083588)
I don't see the problem :angel:
After all, we do have plenty of fuel underneath us, don't we? I guess someone intends to force us to use Chinese made batteries in our $80k priced vehicles. Everyone can afford an $80k car, right? Hey, the working stiff doesn't need to pay a mortgage. A car is much more important. Let's see, transportation to work or place to sleep? What a conundrum.


JMintzer 04-14-2022 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2083560)
America IS open to drilling, the oil companies have over 9,000 drilling permits they are not using.

Incorrect. They have over 9000 LEASES, not PERMITS...

Plus, they need permits to build the infrastructure to move the oil once it's pumped out of the ground... None of that is being fast tracked...

Topspinmo 04-14-2022 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 2082922)
Most modern cars will adjust (via the computer) for E15.


Don’t it have to be flex fuel models??

Topspinmo 04-14-2022 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2083612)
I’m from the government and I’m here to help…


LOL:a040: yes, I got it. :)

Bill14564 04-15-2022 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2083649)
Don’t it have to be flex fuel models??

A flex-fuel vehicle I used to have would work with E85. The "normal," nothing special car I drive today says it will work with E15 but nothing higher.

JoeBell100 04-15-2022 06:54 AM

Use of corn to make E15
 
Only seems logical that if corn is used for E15 then the cost of corn to feed the farm animals will rise and subsequently the cost of chicken, beef, pork, etc. will soon follow.

Keefelane66 04-15-2022 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2083649)
Don’t it have to be flex fuel models??

Flex fuel is E85 totally different from E15

Keefelane66 04-15-2022 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedie (Post 2083452)
Great idea 💡. Open up America for drilling and we will have $2 gallon again. America sits on a sea of fuel

No it will not petroleum is priced on a world market.

OhioBuckeye 04-15-2022 07:44 AM

You said it exactly right, thanks!

MDLNB 04-15-2022 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2083560)
America IS open to drilling, the oil companies have over 9,000 drilling permits they are not using.

Thanks to the pandemic and "graying of the workforce" there is a shortage of workers to bring more wells online.

And the BIG reason they are not bringing more wells online:

Over the last decade, U.S. oil production saw tremendous growth. But when prices crashed in 2014, investors lost big money. Oil prices are notoriously volatile, with the industry often suffering from boom-and-bust cycles.

But in the last few years, investors have been making clear to oil producers that they should not sink money into additional drilling in pursuit of the next oil boom. Instead, they want companies to pay back investors.

Exploration and production companies have responded by recording explosive dividend growth. According to the Morningstar U.S. Market Index, the average dividend in dollars per share has grown from $14 in 2018 to $40 in 2021, an increase of more than 180%.

"Energy companies were very afraid to ramp production because they were going to get punished by investors," said Morris, of data provider Alerian.

So, as always the decision to drilling or not is MONEY, not Biden, despite how much so many want to blame Biden.


Wow, someone's been reading the propaganda. Talking about "drilling" someone should DRILL down past the propaganda to get to the truth.

MDLNB 04-15-2022 07:49 AM

I'm waiting for the government to buy me a 'lectric car. After all, the average worker and lower middle class earner cannot afford one.

JMintzer 04-15-2022 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2083729)
Wow, someone's been reading the propaganda. Talking about "drilling" someone should DRILL down past the propaganda to get to the truth.

I tried to explain it to him, but I'm sure it didn't take...

MartinSE 04-15-2022 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2083621)
Incorrect. They have over 9000 LEASES, not PERMITS...

Plus, they need permits to build the infrastructure to move the oil once it's pumped out of the ground... None of that is being fast tracked...

You are correct, I used the wrong term, any bad. But, it still remains that oil companies are NOT applying for permits. They investors they use to finance drilling new wells do not want them to drill new wells. It is NOT Biden's rules that are stopping them. They have the option to increase production and they do not want to.

MartinSE 04-15-2022 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2083729)
Wow, someone's been reading the propaganda. Talking about "drilling" someone should DRILL down past the propaganda to get to the truth.

Well, the was informative and will certainly help me correct my ways

(end sarcasm).

MY propaganda came from NPR and they got their information from the Oil companies, financial companies, et al. Yeah, left wing radical media like NPR, Bloomberg et al

3 reasons why Big Oil can't simply drill to ease high gas prices : NPR

Where do you get YOUR propaganda?

JMintzer 04-15-2022 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2083914)
You are correct, I used the wrong term, any bad. But, it still remains that oil companies are NOT applying for permits. They investors they use to finance drilling new wells do not want them to drill new wells. It is NOT Biden's rules that are stopping them. They have the option to increase production and they do not want to.

Since you (once again) brought politics into the discussion, I'll reply...

The current admin is not giving PERMITS to drill. They are not giving PERMITS to expand pipelines/roads, etc, to move any oil that is found.

Banks have significantly DECREASED investments in fossil fuels as of 2021...

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The question is WHY they are decreasing investments... I'll let YOU figure out the answer...


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