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MartinSE 04-16-2022 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2084254)
Since post started out with fuel additive going from E10 to E15. Then morphed to E85 going to EV technology, batteries, thought I’d bring up Wind Turbines. My lanai sliders take out maybe 15 to 20 birds a year!
yes, keeping with the fine tradition of TOTV, topic drift is mandatory. LOL!

JMintzer 04-16-2022 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2084182)
I don;'t recall ANYONE being forced to buy electric. Did you get a visitor with a large gun that threatened you? (that was silly, but so is your constant use of the word FORCE. There are incentives to encourage people who are on the fence to buy electric, which will accelerate the adoption and the will help companies cover the cost of conversion. .
Forcing someone to choose between paying $4.00+ for gas or putting food on the table is a metaphorical gun to some people's head...

I would think someone as empathetic as you would realize that...

JMintzer 04-16-2022 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2084250)
Shhh... now you have done it.

Here come the "birds killed" comments.

Ignoring domestic cats kill over 2.4 billion birds a year and wind turbines kill around 250,000. But, you know Wind turbines are evil!
Yes, house cats kill environmentally protected bird all the time... Wait, what?

MartinSE 04-16-2022 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2084345)
Forcing someone to choose between paying $4.00+ for gas or putting food on the table is a metaphorical gun to some people's head...

I would think someone as empathetic as you would realize that...
Okay, I will bite, how are people being forced to choose between gas and food and who is doing the forcing?

Speedie 04-16-2022 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Southwest737 (Post 2083337)
Thank you Elon Musk for the best automobile we have owned. Tesla. No gas.
Keeping it charged from a coal fired generating plant

MartinSE 04-17-2022 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedie (Post 2084467)
Keeping it charged from a coal fired generating plant
More power is generated by wind turbines today than by coal.

MorTech 04-17-2022 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2084464)
Okay, I will bite, how are people being forced to choose between gas and food and who is doing the forcing?
To put ethanol in gasoline they destroy corn food crops. The State uses death threats (aka, gun-n-jail backed "Laws") to force ethanol into gasoline.

JMintzer 04-17-2022 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2084464)
Okay, I will bite, how are people being forced to choose between gas and food and who is doing the forcing?
Not everyone is as financially fortunate as you or I...

Current sky high inflation and the significant increase in gas prices (over that last 1+ year) are the main culprit...

JMintzer 04-17-2022 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2084470)
More power is generated by wind turbines today than by coal.
That happened (supposedly) for only one day...

tophcfa 04-17-2022 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2084254)
Since post started out with fuel additive going from E10 to E15. Then morphed to E85 going to EV technology, batteries, thought I’d bring up Wind Turbines. My lanai sliders take out maybe 15 to 20 birds a year!
Try putting some of these stickers on your lanai sliders. They are readily available from Amazon and will significantly reduce the number of birds flying into the glass.

Keefelane66 04-17-2022 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2084472)
To put ethanol in gasoline they destroy corn food crops. The State uses death threats (aka, gun-n-jail backed "Laws") to force ethanol into gasoline.
And, grain crops to make liquor priorities. Some do consider alcohol food.

MartinSE 04-17-2022 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2084546)
Not everyone is as financially fortunate as you or I...

Current sky high inflation and the significant increase in gas prices (over that last 1+ year) are the main culprit...
This is very true. I completely agree and inflation historically lags the cause by 2 to 5 years. According to some experts, the current inflation cycle (they usually come every 15 years or so) has been "overdue" for about 2 or more years. So, it could possibly have been initiated by Obama policies or Trump policies. It is highly unlikely that it was caused by Biden's policies since those started just 1 1/2 years ago. However, I did say highly unlikely. With the pandemic creating economic chaos around the world (including here) it is hard to apply traditional economic models to the current situation.

And this is an ECONOMIC reply, not a political post. I did not blame or exonerate anyone, simply pointing out that cause and effect don't happen overnight. Inflation happens, it is a thing with capitalism/socialism/or whichever we have.

MartinSE 04-17-2022 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2084701)
Try putting some of these stickers on your lanai sliders. They are readily available from Amazon and will significantly reduce the number of birds flying into the glass.
Not just birds, but people and dogs frequently slam into sliding glass doors, they are really dangerous. And decorative sticks help a lot.

MartinSE 04-17-2022 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2084547)
That happened (supposedly) for only one day...
It happened, the change is upon us. With another large offshore wind turbine farm just licensed, in a few years, we will see more and more. Coal is on the way out. It has no future - short of economic collapse killing any innovative new solutions.

Wind Market Reports: 2021 Edition | Department of Energy

Sadly, in today's world everything is "supposedly", since there seems to be more misinformation than information available.

JMintzer 04-17-2022 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2084711)
This is very true. I completely agree and inflation historically lags the cause by 2 to 5 years. According to some experts, the current inflation cycle (they usually come every 15 years or so) has been "overdue" for about 2 or more years. So, it could possibly have been initiated by Obama policies or Trump policies. It is highly unlikely that it was caused by Biden's policies since those started just 1 1/2 years ago. However, I did say highly unlikely. With the pandemic creating economic chaos around the world (including here) it is hard to apply traditional economic models to the current situation.

And this is an ECONOMIC reply, not a political post. I did not blame or exonerate anyone, simply pointing out that cause and effect don't happen overnight. Inflation happens, it is a thing with capitalism/socialism/or whichever we have.
"Highly unlikely"....

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