[Michael G.]

Like someone mention, I think battery power airplanes and boats would be soooooo cool.

[Joe C.]

No EV or hybrid for me.
I like driving, and go long distances several times a year.
EV's are something that the government is trying to shove down our throats or shove up the other place against the wishes of probably a majority of people.

[NoMoSno]

I'd consider a hybrid.
The issue I see is we keep our vehicles for many years.
Most hybrids have an 8 year warranty on the battery and an $8-10,000 replacement battery cost.

[M2inOR]

I traded in my 2006 Lexus RX400h hybrid a few months ago. Almost 15 years old, and still on the original battery. Dealer gave me $5000 for it, plus other incentives, which I used to buy a 2021 Lexus RX350; its brethren. No problems, but I'm sure they would be coming. It had about 140,000 miles on it.

When we decided to move to Florida 2 years ago, we sold my wife's 2008 Prius with just under 100,000 miles on it. Why? We did not need the car, and we knew were going to eventually have two golf carts.

Did we purchase them both to be green? economical? No.

We purchased them both, new, at sticker price when they first came out because we knew that Lexus and Toyota would NOT let them fail. The price premium over the similar non-hybrid cars would eat up any savings on fuel prices.

Reliability was our goal.

Friend in Oregon has a 2004 Prius, and the very rare battery warning finally lit on the dash; yes, time for a new battery. Nothing else wrong with the car, and he's biting the bullet to replace with a new battery. Installation is complex, and recycling has to be done properly. It doesn't just bolt in under the rear seat.

His rationale is that new and used cars are premium priced these days due to shortages, and his Prius is familiar; it's in otherwise prime condition. Don't worry, he has some fun cars, too in his garage.

We looked at many, many other cars over the years. What's most importance to us, is which car will last the longest for us, and require minimum maintenance. My wife gets upset when I say My 2021 is likely the last car in my lifetime, as I keep them for 15-20 years.

[JGVillages]

So I take my 300 mile range electric car to my son’s home in Bradenton, about 130 miles. Trip back 130 miles so only 40 mile cushion in case of delays on the interstate. I get to my son’s house then he follows me to a charging station which if available we have to wait for 30 minutes+ at a minimum then return to visit his family. No thanks. Are 20 pump WAWA gas stations going to covert to e-WAWA with 40 PLUS needed charging stations to accommodate the 15 to 30 minute wait at each e-station to charge, and that’s if you don’t have to get in line. Power outages? Can’t keep a 5 gallon can of electricity in my garage for emergencies, or need I buy an expensive generator, keep gasoline to run the generator, so I can charge my car. Power Grid shutdowns aka California? They can’t handle the power needed now, just wait until most everyone is plugging in their garage. TOO MUCH PREEMPTIVE PUSH WITHOUT LONG TERM ANSWERS FOR METO GET ON BOARD AT THIS TIME.

[Jean G]

Had a Leaf for 3 years. Limited mileage was a problem. Hate the carbon footprint once you consider all aspects of design materials and waste. I’m going all gas unless forced out of it.

[bobnyce]

Originally Posted by Blackbird45

I tried buying a Sonata Hybrid a few year ago and they only sold them in a few state, not here in Fl. I even thought of traveling to one of those states to buy one and they told me at if I needed repairs they might not have the mechanics here to service it. I have a 2021 right now and will wait at least until 2024 then I will go total EV.

I don't know if the hybrids have improved, but as I looked further into it the electric range to me it wasn't worth it. The range on the EVs are improving every day, some new startups are claiming 500 miles and recharge time of 18 minutes. If you live in the Villages the prospects of never having to visit a gas station is alright with me. If you look at the map of recharge stations from here to N.Y. you'll be shocked and more are popping up everyday.

At the end other than the batteries it will become less expensive to build an EV. Less expensive to put an outlets anywhere than to building a gas station. Less expensive than extracting oil from the ground, refining it and drivers to get it to the station. No matter how much you love gas, EVs are here and they will take over.

I never could figure out why no one builds an electric car with a super quiet, constantly charging Honda generator motor to feed the batteries. If you started with a full charge and ran the generator all the time it has to significantly charge a car battery. Certainly a generator can run for hours on a small amount of gas and many can provide juice for an entire house so why can't they charge a car battery or at least provide super extended mileage on electric?

[biker1]

They did. It was called the Chevy Volt. While there was a direct connection between the gas engine (not a Honda) and the drive train, I believe most of the power came from the electric motor, which is being powered by a generator, connected to the gas engine, that recharges the battery. The drive train did evolve during the Volt's production run.

Originally Posted by bobnyce

I never could figure out why no one builds an electric car with a super quiet, constantly charging Honda generator motor to feed the batteries. If you started with a full charge and ran the generator all the time it has to significantly charge a car battery. Certainly a generator can run for hours on a small amount of gas and many can provide juice for an entire house so why can't they charge a car battery or at least provide super extended mileage on electric?

[MorTech]

For TV retirees, an EV can make sense. 300 mile range diminishing to about 250 miles over 300,000 miles.
I would only recommend the new Kia EV6/Hyundai Ioniq 5 for their new lithium battery technology (safer and more durable).
If you plug into a standard 120V outlet you will charge at about 4 miles per hour...Plenty for a lot of people in TV.
Otherwise, a Toyota Corolla hybrid makes the most sense.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MorTech

For TV retirees, an EV can make sense. 300 mile range diminishing to about 250 miles over 300,000 miles.
I would only recommend the new Kia EV6/Hyundai Ioniq 5 for their new lithium battery technology (safer and more durable).
If you plug into a standard 120V outlet you will charge at about 4 miles per hour...Plenty for a lot of people in TV.
Otherwise, a Toyota Corolla hybrid makes the most sense.

Yup...

I'll consider one once I stop the 900+ mile trip back and forth... Till then? ICE, ICE, Baby!

[Djean1981]

We have a hybrid, so around the local are, no gas is used. However, gas is used once the battery is depleted - and it can go across country, on gas. Around the villages, a hybrid should suffice to avoid using gasoline.

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Like someone mention, I think battery power airplanes and boats would be soooooo cool.

Two words - Energy Density.
Even electric 18-wheelers make no sense. Just ask Trevor Milton

[biker1]

Trevor Milton was indicted for security fraud, which has nothing to do with the feasibility of electric semis. Electric semis, and electric trucks in general, will make sense with the current generation of NCA and LFP batteries for some, but not all applications. Future battery improvements will expand the applicability.

Originally Posted by MorTech

Two words - Energy Density.
Even electric 18-wheelers make no sense. Just ask Trevor Milton

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by biker1

Trevor Milton was indicted for security fraud, which has nothing to do with the feasibility of electric semis. Electric semis, and electric trucks in general, will make sense with the current generation of NCA and LFP batteries for some, but not all applications. Future battery improvements will expand the applicability.

The battery will always overrun the cargo capacity(80,000 lbs)...Energy Density.
An unladen electrified Boeing 787 Dreamliner would not even get off the ground.

[MorTech]

Maybe GM will import their Baojun E100. It is cheaper than a golf cart.