[Luggage]

But you still paid at least $10,000 more for your car then a gas equivalent and is everyone always talks about the payback, that would be 20 years for me

[Blackbird45]

I tried buying a Sonata Hybrid a few year ago and they only sold them in a few state, not here in Fl. I even thought of traveling to one of those states to buy one and they told me at if I needed repairs they might not have the mechanics here to service it. I have a 2021 right now and will wait at least until 2024 then I will go total EV.

I don't know if the hybrids have improved, but as I looked further into it the electric range to me it wasn't worth it. The range on the EVs are improving every day, some new startups are claiming 500 miles and recharge time of 18 minutes. If you live in the Villages the prospects of never having to visit a gas station is alright with me. If you look at the map of recharge stations from here to N.Y. you'll be shocked and more are popping up everyday.

At the end other than the batteries it will become less expensive to build an EV. Less expensive to put an outlets anywhere than to building a gas station. Less expensive than extracting oil from the ground, refining it and drivers to get it to the station. No matter how much you love gas, EVs are here and they will take over.

[villageuser]

My next car will be an all electric. I am hoping it will be next year. I am wanting one with all the safety features, and unfortunately, due to the chip shortage, I am unable to find any in stock anywhere (I’ve looked using a radius of 500 miles for the various manufacturers that I like) And, yes, I could order a Tesla, but with the quality issues they’ve been having and the distance we are from their service centers, I have decided not to go Tesla.

There are many EVs coming out next year and I am hoping one of them will have my name on it. I am preparing myself however, to that it might not be till 2023. The idea that I may never have to fill up with petro fills me with delight. Plus no tuning, oil changes, etc etc needed. These cars, so far, come with a 10-year battery warranty, so I am not concerned about diminishing battery capacity. I usually like to trade my cars out by its 10 year mark and, besides, who knows who wonderful the technology will be in 10 years. Some of these concept cars I’ve been looking at are absolutely dreamy. To be able to drive sideways right into a parallel parking spot! Yes, I’ll be wanting one of those someday.

[richs631]

I’m 59, so in my lifetime no. Any moderate to long distance trip is out of the question and the last time I looked there’s not many public charging station and if there are count on 10 hours to fully charge. Not many qualified mechanics. Even with minimal driving with golf carts most people prefer a gas cart

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

From the information we have on this new way of transportation, I'm asking:

Would you consider a EV or Hybrid vehicle in your future.

I know their coming and but it's the battery's that concerns me and every year
they seem to improve in mileage.

Your Thoughts Please.

I drive a 2012 Prius with about 159,000 miles on it. Never any trouble. Original batteries. Great mileage. I drove 6000 miles last summer, to the Canadian border, then Denver, then home, about 600 or 700 miles a day, carrying a huge load of heavy tools (I was moving from Pennsylvania to live here full time). No trouble. I fill the tank once a month for about $25. I keep the back seat folded down and use the back like a truck bed. I can carry a box six feet long and three feet wide, or some eight foot boards.

When I replace it, I plan to get another Prius, as I’m not sure that there are adequate charging stations nation wide. Maybe there will be in five years. If I didn’t drive farther than to Orlando or the beaches, I would happily buy an EV, except that I do need the room in the back for boxes every day and don’t want (and can’t afford) an SUV EV.

[RBW225]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

From the information we have on this new way of transportation, I'm asking:

Would you consider a EV or Hybrid vehicle in your future.

I know their coming and but it's the battery's that concerns me and every year
they seem to improve in mileage.

Your Thoughts Please.

I have had several hybrids providing over 50 miles per gallon. I like the assurance of never running out of electricity,

[NotGolfer]

Question....what happens when "everyone" decides to get one of those and needs to charge the battery?? Will our infa-structure be able to handle it?? I'm thinking about winter---yes some folks travel in those months---when there "might" be power roll-outs. I was thinking of states like Texas and CA that have had that happen. Could it happen to other states? Power needs to come from somewhere and those windmills won't be able to handle it along with everything else they're handling. In theory these vehicles sound like a great invention but I'm thinking in the long run.....maybe not so much.

[Brwne]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

From the information we have on this new way of transportation, I'm asking:

Would you consider a EV or Hybrid vehicle in your future.

I know their coming and but it's the battery's that concerns me and every year
they seem to improve in mileage.

Your Thoughts Please.

Honda Clarity (sadly, discontinued) provides plug-in battery charge with gas engine. The initial charge is good for 35-40 miles, then the gas engine will kick in (the battery can be recharged while driving in "gas" mode). Most anything you might want to do INSIDE The Villages will be on battery. Trips outside starts using gas. With numerous trips to the airport, beaches and Disneyworld, we've averaged 81.8 mpg over 8,000 miles.

[spd2918]

The new small truck from Ford is the Maverick. The base model is a hybrid and costs around 20,000 before current dealer gouging. I like most everything about it except for the CVT transmission.

[noslices1]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

From the information we have on this new way of transportation, I'm asking:

Would you consider a EV or Hybrid vehicle in your future.

I know their coming and but it's the battery's that concerns me and every year
they seem to improve in mileage.

Your Thoughts Please.

Not going electric until that’s the only choice. Hopefully, that will never happen. Would consider nuclear if we get that far.

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Originally Posted by rjm1cc

For local driving I think you will be fine.
For long distance driving on a regular basis I would stick to gas. (I am assuming you would need to charge the batteries to complete the trip.)

No. I don't think enough thought has been given to the source of the electric power needed to power EVs. Can't just plug them into a corn field.

[mkjelenbaas]

Just curious? Why would what I do have an effect on you? Just wondering.

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by NotGolfer

Power needs to come from somewhere [to charge your car during a power outage]

Gas pumps need electricity, too. How will you fill your car in a power outage?

[butlerism]

Originally Posted by Kelevision

I’ve realized that many on this forum will reply with a matter of fact answer and when you try to explain, they only attack you. Brains aren’t a requirement for TOTV. I had a Lexus hybrid years ago. I loved it. I almost got a Tesla a few years back, but decided to wait on an EV until I’m done traveling for work. I drive cross country to CA and back, with dogs, so the charging time is what stopped me in the end. If I never had to drive out of range or no dogs, I’d love to get an EV. I did just order a lithium golf cart and can’t wait to get rid of this horribly loud smelly gas loaner I have.

No way......... never.

Batteries are very expensive.
Try to grasp that warranty plan to change out batteries under warranty. Most likely you will be getting a new "refurbished battery".

Add up all the costs to make a plastic electric car ( fossil fuels required) .
Where are all the cost benefit analysis's data to show the viability?
That is what engineers do.
We do not run a round selling a 1 degree change in world temperature justifies changing out an entire industry.
When China, Russia, all these other countries fully change over, then lets talk again.

These ideas are being pushed by non scientific people.
The world is laughing.
Where are all the electrics in Mexico, England, France and Canada.
Canada gets very very cold. Batteries do not like deep cold.
Recall that spec on a battery called "Cold Cranking Amps". Why is that?
So in Canada to buy an EV also means you need a heated garage. Total joke!
Lets talk power to weight ratio. Once again being sold a bucket of lies. The elctric motors have an output "no load" spec. I am sure they are using that number to sell the product. Batteries are heavy, what is the real ratio?

Now for safety issues. On average most electric cars involved in a decent accident, the batteries go on fire. Let alone the spontaneous eruption into flames while not driving.

My favorite is the images showing an EV in the surf at the beach. Guess what some numb nut will try to do that. Warranty voided.
Also when salt water comes into contact with batteries. A very nasty gas called Chlorine is disassociated when the two mix.
My other favorite is lets go to the mountain trails, off road. Now, while we are 30 miles into the deep woods, battery failure. Then what? That is one hefty bill for a tow or a repair.


All Pigs in Lipstick..... still a Pig at the end of the day.

[Blackbird45]

Right now there are ships backup at sea and we will always be hostage by foreign countries for their black gold. Right now the prince of Saudi Arabia can do whatever he pleases and we have to kiss his ring. We have to claim our independence and find a way to stand on our own. Build up our infrastructure and if not EVs or hydrogen, then little mice or rubber band power, but we have to get out from the fear some country can cut us off at will