[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by thesteve685

1. tv could have been an environmentally exemplary community if went to electric from the gitgo. fat chance that will change EVER!
2. why would anyone want to violate the law just to go 2-3 mph faster?
where is the conscience?

Six posts so I guess you are new here. You must have heard that sometime soon someone will be to your home to check to see that you are doing everything right; that you are reusing your old clothes, shoes, and furniture and that you have not had to buy new tools to replace the ones you didn't bring with you. They will see that you are hand weeding your foundation planting and that you use glass leftover dishes so as not to waste food. They will check to see that you are reusing the bread bags for leftovers and the coffee cans for small garage items.

However, you ARE allowed and even encouraged to buy gas golf carts because people use them a lot to get where they are going and people are getting older here all of the time and before long you will find that you cannot walk home for as far as your electric cart took you and now you are stranded out back of Konkles Hollow and the damned thing won't start. It is true to be fair that people sometimes run out of gas but they run out of juice from the batteries an awful lot more around these parts. And...I am thinking your views are minority views here too....but you will probably be happier than any place you have ever lived...............

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Ben Franklin

I bet you had a stone quarry too, when they change from stone wheels to rubber tires.

Yes, I use to work at stone quarry. The only thing electric was the conveyor belt motors . That was 45 years ago and guess what still same. All things green made out of fossil fuels and fossil fuels supply the power to mine all metal products. That not going to change for at least next 100 years or more.

[dadspet]

Ok look, this will be a mute discussion in 4 - 5 yrs when most carts and cars will be battery/electric. The real discussion then will be how do I get even get rid of a gas cart since the junk yards will be filled with them and you won't be able to buy gas or parts or sell one. Perhaps I'm overstating the future problem since horses survived after people found gas cars to be a better choice. Don't take me wrong I have to admit I'm very technical and change doesn't bother me as much as some; as proof, I converted from oil lights to electric and bought a TV to replace our family room vacuum tube AM radio console recently. But I have to admit I'm currently seeing a shrink to help we cope with this future gas issue, since I have a car that needs plenty.
To make it worst since I can't sleep at night trying to resolve this issue, my family Dr told me not to take sleeping pills.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Six posts so I guess you are new here. You must have heard that sometime soon someone will be to your home to check to see that you are doing everything right; that you are reusing your old clothes, shoes, and furniture and that you have not had to buy new tools to replace the ones you didn't bring with you. They will see that you are hand weeding your foundation planting and that you use glass leftover dishes so as not to waste food. They will check to see that you are reusing the bread bags for leftovers and the coffee cans for small garage items.

However, you ARE allowed and even encouraged to buy gas golf carts because people use them a lot to get where they are going and people are getting older here all of the time and before long you will find that you cannot walk home for as far as your electric cart took you and now you are stranded out back of Konkles Hollow and the damned thing won't start. It is true to be fair that people sometimes run out of gas but they run out of juice from the batteries an awful lot more around these parts. And...I am thinking your views are minority views here too....but you will probably be happier than any place you have ever lived...............

Been awhile since you had electric hasn't it?

[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Six posts so I guess you are new here. You must have heard that sometime soon someone will be to your home to check to see that you are doing everything right; that you are reusing your old clothes, shoes, and furniture and that you have not had to buy new tools to replace the ones you didn't bring with you. They will see that you are hand weeding your foundation planting and that you use glass leftover dishes so as not to waste food. They will check to see that you are reusing the bread bags for leftovers and the coffee cans for small garage items.

However, you ARE allowed and even encouraged to buy gas golf carts because people use them a lot to get where they are going and people are getting older here all of the time and before long you will find that you cannot walk home for as far as your electric cart took you and now you are stranded out back of Konkles Hollow and the damned thing won't start. It is true to be fair that people sometimes run out of gas but they run out of juice from the batteries an awful lot more around these parts. And...I am thinking your views are minority views here too....but you will probably be happier than any place you have ever lived...............

As I have only used electric carts in TV for many years with no issues, I guess my vast experience over some newbies would suggest that electric is the way to go with no gas smell, much quieter, and instant power plus convenient recharge at home.

Hi graciegirl

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

I see this discussion a lot and yesterday did a practical exercise. We took off from our home in Chitty Chatty, drove to Walgreens in Colony Plaza, then drove around our old neighborhood of Duval. Then we proceeded to the Brownwood Square, over the 44 Bridge to Megasen Road, on to Bradford and finally swung East to home in Chitty Chatty. Approx 22 miles and the cart/batteries are 3 years old. The Gauge dropped below half, so my guess would be about 15 miles remains on the batteries. We drive this cart at least once a day, every day, so no replacement is in site for now. For us, we will never buy another gas cart due to the jerkiness, smell and worst of all the noise.

Endless gossip from some who know and many who do not. Remaining range on a battery based on gauge. First of all it depends on the battery type and what the gauge is measuring as well as the cut off.

Lead acid batteries, the voltage falls off gradually as the battery discharges. The gauge often measures the voltage. You will notice lights dim and speed decreases as the batteries run down in charge.
Lithium Ion batteries have a fairly flat voltage until the end of the useful charge at the end the voltage suddenly drops off.
You should not run either completely down. The reason is what we call the battery is actually several batteries, several cells, wired together to get the 36 or 48 volts or whatever. If, it is 48 volts lead acid, each cell is 2 volts so it is 24 cells. That can be 4 12 volt batteries, 6 8volt or 8 6volt batteries. The voltage is the same. The difference is the quantity of stored electricity. 8 6volt batteries will likely have more ampere hours, a bigger tank of gas if, that makes sense to the way people think.
No matter what all the cells will not perfectly match. When, you run the assembly down too far it damages or destroys the weakest cells. Permanently damaging the assembly.

The endless gas vs electric debate. You should not run a gas cart or your car completely out of gas either. But, in gas if you are running out of gas, you can likely find gas and fill the tank. Electric that is not an option. A short top up charge does not charge all the cells equally.

My background, I used to sell high powered rechargeable photo flashes.

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

I see this discussion a lot and yesterday did a practical exercise. We took off from our home in Chitty Chatty, drove to Walgreens in Colony Plaza, then drove around our old neighborhood of Duval. Then we proceeded to the Brownwood Square, over the 44 Bridge to Megasen Road, on to Bradford and finally swung East to home in Chitty Chatty. Approx 22 miles and the cart/batteries are 3 years old. The Gauge dropped below half, so my guess would be about 15 miles remains on the batteries. We drive this cart at least once a day, every day, so no replacement is in site for now. For us, we will never buy another gas cart due to the jerkiness, smell and worst of all the noise.

Respect that and I definitely think each person has a set of circumstances to consider, it's like Ford or Chevy, Chicken or steak, lol, always devotees. I would add we've had both for many years before we lived here, electric was not right for us, always run down just when we wanted to use it, but, yes, we lived on several courses in other locations and have had 2 electric and 3 gas. I would only add that my former negatives like "smell", noise", were based on for cars (Yamaha, Club, and yes.... Harley Davidson believe it or not...LOL) but now the new modern gas carts are SO MUCH DIFFERENT, like autos, no fumes and loud noise....but many just prefer electric, like autos and mowers, and hand tools, it's what is right for you that counts !

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Six posts so I guess you are new here. You must have heard that sometime soon someone will be to your home to check to see that you are doing everything right; that you are reusing your old clothes, shoes, and furniture and that you have not had to buy new tools to replace the ones you didn't bring with you. They will see that you are hand weeding your foundation planting and that you use glass leftover dishes so as not to waste food. They will check to see that you are reusing the bread bags for leftovers and the coffee cans for small garage items.

However, you ARE allowed and even encouraged to buy gas golf carts because people use them a lot to get where they are going and people are getting older here all of the time and before long you will find that you cannot walk home for as far as your electric cart took you and now you are stranded out back of Konkles Hollow and the damned thing won't start. It is true to be fair that people sometimes run out of gas but they run out of juice from the batteries an awful lot more around these parts. And...I am thinking your views are minority views here too....but you will probably be happier than any place you have ever lived...............

Wow, I hope I am reading this out of context. Or perhaps, a bad mood. You look down on someone with 6 posts. You show 39,000 posts. Perhaps the person with 6 posts has better things to do.

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by DAVES

Endless gossip from some who know and many who do not. Remaining range on a battery based on gauge. First of all it depends on the battery type and what the gauge is measuring as well as the cut off.

Lead acid batteries, the voltage falls off gradually as the battery discharges. The gauge often measures the voltage. You will notice lights dim and speed decreases as the batteries run down in charge.
Lithium Ion batteries have a fairly flat voltage until the end of the useful charge at the end the voltage suddenly drops off.
You should not run either completely down. The reason is what we call the battery is actually several batteries, several cells, wired together to get the 36 or 48 volts or whatever. If, it is 48 volts lead acid, each cell is 2 volts so it is 24 cells. That can be 4 12 volt batteries, 6 8volt or 8 6volt batteries. The voltage is the same. The difference is the quantity of stored electricity. 8 6volt batteries will likely have more ampere hours, a bigger tank of gas if, that makes sense to the way people think.
No matter what all the cells will not perfectly match. When, you run the assembly down too far it damages or destroys the weakest cells. Permanently damaging the assembly.

The endless gas vs electric debate. You should not run a gas cart or your car completely out of gas either. But, in gas if you are running out of gas, you can likely find gas and fill the tank. Electric that is not an option. A short top up charge does not charge all the cells equally.

My background, I used to sell high powered rechargeable photo flashes.

THANK YOU ! That was very interesting and helpful, didn't know any of that, but we've had several electric and several gas. Before moving here, we decided no more electric carts, mowers, or hand tools, they just don't work for our life and life style, but we decided on only gas from now on for the reason gave.... we have friends and neighbors who will bring a spare can of gas in an emergency.... none of them would bring us a jar of spare electricity...and the fact the the gas cart we have now is a far far cry from those of the past, quiet, no fumes, nice ride, good shocks make a nice ride on he course too. Thanks again, now I understand why I will stick with gas... plus hubby can't "fix" electric if it stops, the gas cart is little more than a sophisticated lawn mower to most things pretty easy to fix in a hurry....not much of an electrician though

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

The jerkiness you experience are from carburetor old carts or inexperience. Fuel injected carts don’t jerk unless you induce it. Glad you are happy with the electric cart. Pros and cons with both styles. Gas carts engines can run for ever if the operator has any clue of preventive maintenance. You will be buying 1k plus batteries in few years. While my gas cart will still be running fine when I’m in the grave. I’ve had both, both worked fine for my needs, but I like gas better.

Same here, same experience, multiples of both gas and electric in former locations, and you are right on with the new gas carts. Never again electric for us, but some love them and it's very nice we have choices like in autos. We bought a number of battery hand tools and other things, the discarding of batteries started to bother us, the cost too kept escalation, and for us the main reason was it limited the usefulness as it was always hooked up JUST when we needed it. But would never try to change anyone's mind, we all have different needs.

[l2ridehd]

Since first buying here I keep a tow rope in my gas cart. I have towed 6 carts for folks broke down and needed help getting home. 5 of the 6 were electric. The one gas had run out of gas. User error. Probably the electric was user error as well. But based on the fact there are probably twice as many gas as electric and in my small sample it was 5 to 1 in favor of gas, it makes me wonder about just how user friendly electric really is.

[villagerjack]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

The jerkiness you experience are from carburetor old carts or inexperience. Fuel injected carts don’t jerk unless you induce it. Glad you are happy with the electric cart. Pros and cons with both styles. Gas carts engines can run for ever if the operator has any clue of preventive maintenance. You will be buying 1k plus batteries in few years. While my gas cart will still be running fine when I’m in the grave. I’ve had both, both worked fine for my needs, but I like gas better.

My electric cart is a 1998 EZ Go. . Bought in 1999. Runs fine, clean, reliable and as fast as I need to go. Range is 30-35. We only use it for about 4 months a year and I would probably never sell it even if we bought a new cart which I am not planning to do anytime soon. There is no need for noisy and smelly gas carts especially with the newer longer range batteries.