[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Sorry, maybe I don’t understand: someone wants people in the northern part of TV to pay for noise reduction in the southern part?

Sorry...I do understand. There is always someone like you who wants to make it "us vs, them"

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

If you were the Morse family and your business makes a good return on investment by continuing to expand would you stop?

I'm actually curious, in a morbid sort of way. I wonder what happens to the Villages if the next generation of Morse Family members decide they're not interested in the business at all, and go on to other things. Does the entire Villages close due to lack of interest of the holding company? If they sold it, well at this point you'd need a major corporation or an insanely wealthy person to buy them out. What would the community be like, if that happened?

[Karmanng]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

They are building 425 family homes on 301 at the Marsh Bend stop light, about 1/2 miles south of the light a 35 acre industrial park, and about 1/2 mile north of the light a large retail complex plus a few smaller developments. All of that plus the fact that if there is a wreck on I-75 or the Turnpike 301 is the detour route be it north or south. I plan on staying home a lot.

When visiting I did not care at all for Deluna or Richmond but mainly due to the fact that it was very swampy there. Where I bought its much nicer and YES ON THE MAP it shows I am close to the turnpike but 2 visits and a few golf cart drive bys can not even hear it..

[olliesnorth@aol.com]

If one makes the purchase near the highway. Then now complain.
You didn’t do your due diligence before your purchase.
3 options
Live with it
Sell it
Or continue to complain

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by Veracity

This is simply not true. The "lottery system" is used only for new-construction houses so as not to create "bidding wars" which could unreasonably inflate the prices of new houses (and The Villages and their sales agents would be making windfall profits on certain homes). If they were to take the highest bidder, instead of using the "lottery system" they could not control the price of some houses from going through the roof, and many newly constructed houses would most likely be beyond the reach of the average home buyer. Bidding wars would probably be in the best interest of The Developer, but they have instead come up with a system to protect consumers against price gouging. We threw our name into the hat for a couple homes in Richmond which we did NOT get. It does not cost anything to enter the lottery for the opportunity to buy a specific house. We were told that if we won the lottery that we would have a short amount of time to put down a deposit to finalize the deal because there would be others on the waiting list. No one forces you to buy the house, even after winning the lottery. They don't care if you back out because they will simply offer it to the next person, until they eventually get a serious buyer who puts down a deposit. You have 24 hours to move forward...or not. Each time we entered the lottery, our Villages Sales Agent told us to consider the noise from the turnpike. Eventually, we gave up on Richmond because we were getting too close to the turnpike for our liking. Sure, we were disappointed that we didn't get the house we wanted, but someone else is happy, and no one got the house by paying more than what it is worth. Our sales agent is looking for another house and with the recent slowdown in the housing market, we are certain that we will find a great location within our tolerance to the turnpike noise (we want to be south because that is where we are currently renting a house and we love the walking paths and nature trails in the southern area). I think that people are very quick to blame the Developer, or a Sales Agent instead of themselves for their own impulse buying. There is enough demand for these houses, that there is no need to put pressure on anyone to buy. If anything, we found that they are trying to tamp down the pressure by using a a process that does not pit buyer-against-buyer and gives people the opportunity to easily back out, but like everything else, the buyer needs to do their own due diligence and know what they are buying. That's on you, not The Developer and not the Sales Agent.

Perfectly stated.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I'm actually curious, in a morbid sort of way. I wonder what happens to the Villages if the next generation of Morse Family members decide they're not interested in the business at all, and go on to other things. Does the entire Villages close due to lack of interest of the holding company? If they sold it, well at this point you'd need a major corporation or an insanely wealthy person to buy them out. What would the community be like, if that happened?

Or if they couldn’t find someone to buy it in whole and had to sell it piecemeal? What kind of can of worms would that be?

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

Sorry...I do understand. There is always someone like you who wants to make it "us vs, them"

??? I didn’t start this thread. I am just amazed that someone wants others to subsidize their comfort level.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Karmanng

ON THE MAP it shows I am close to the turnpike but 2 visits and a few golf cart drive bys can not even hear it..

Maybe that is because the turnpike near your house is at a lower elevation and the land around it muffles the sound. Or maybe the sound was less because of the wind direction.

We live north of Route 44 but spend a lot of time in the Southern Area because we like the amenities. We often walk on the Hawkins nature trail and sometimes the Turnpike noise is very noticeable, but sometimes it isn't.

[I'm Popeye!]

Is that a particularly unique house with many perks to fall under a "Lottery System"? If so, stop beefing and enjoy the perks that most of us don't have!

[Michael 61]

Here’s my input - After years of much researching TV, took my first lifestyle visit in July 2022 - fell in love with TV, and the south end in particular - wanted a new build close to Brownwood and to the nature/walking trails of the South. Returned for second lifestyle visit in August 2022 - DeLuna was the only village selling new builds at time. Researched the available homes - most at that time were in the northern section (next to Turnpike) or against 301 on the far western side. Although I didn’t want a home with a backyard that faces the turnpike - I thought I could tolerate being just a block or two away. Drove my golf cart to all new patio villas for sale in DeLuna, as well as those soon to come up for sale, so I knew the location, as I would be bidding from outside the state. During the day, I thought the turnpike noise was like “white noise” once you begin to get several blocks away from it. When I rode my golf cart back at night (like 11pm) the noise was more noticeable, so I decided to pass on northern/western DeLuna and wait for Richmond. Returned for third visit in October 2022. Rented a patio villa off Hillsborough trial. Liked the neighborhood and area, but the villa, though a few years old, felt dated compared to the homes I stayed in during my lifestyle visits - confirmed I wanted a new build further south. During this visit, Richmond had not yet come online, but I drove my golf cart all around the construction in Richmond to get to know the lay of the land, and yes, check out turnpike noise. I needed to know the area well, since if lucky, I would be in the lottery from out of state, not seeing the home in person. I realized there were going to be two areas of patio villas in Richmond - one on the extreme north end of Richmond, and another alongside the turnpike to the south. The south end was not an option due to noise. The north, however, was different. You have to strain to hear it during the day, and at most time not noticeable. At night, you hear a little bit, not from the turnpike, but from 44 along with a little bit of music from Brownwood. In November, after many attempts, I secured a win in the lottery in north Richmond. I was a little nervous buying a house sight-unseen, but because I had previously done my homework regarding noise, I wasn’t too worried. This has worked out fine. I can walk to Brownwood if I want, and any noise from turnpike/44 is almost non-existent during the day and very minimal at night. So, you can not lump the entire area south of 44 as having terrible turnpike noise.

[Signguy]

The plan should have included a barrier.

I went to the area in Richmond for three days, several times a day, the noise was light hum. I decided to go for it and I got "Lucky". Living here now for almost two months, the noise does seem louder at times.

When I put in my pool, I will put in a Privacy Wall on the side that faces the highway.

[Strom]

When we purchased in 2012, there was to be no expansion below 466A. Odell was a quiet road. We specifically chose this area for its peace and had checked it out numerous times before purchasing. Now traffic has increased due to expansion in The Villages. We installed shrubs and trees for privacy and some noise reduction. I would put up my own wall but not allowed. Sometimes despite all your due diligence you have no control.

[Lisanp@aol.com]

There will never be a sound barrier or wall installed. It is the goal of the developer to have beautiful golf courses flanking both sides of the turnpike as you drive through, as a living billboard to their community and it’s amenities. Anyone who wastes their time and energy trying to change that is just a fool!

[ohioshooter]

Originally Posted by Lisanp@aol.com

There will never be a sound barrier or wall installed. It is the goal of the developer to have beautiful golf courses flanking both sides of the turnpike as you drive through, as a living billboard to their community and it’s amenities. Anyone who wastes their time and energy trying to change that is just a fool!

A little harsh, aren’t you?

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by Lisanp@aol.com

There will never be a sound barrier or wall installed. It is the goal of the developer to have beautiful golf courses flanking both sides of the turnpike as you drive through, as a living billboard to their community and it’s amenities. Anyone who wastes their time and energy trying to change that is just a fool!

Yes there will be a wall. The state is expanding the third lane on the turnpike, moving north. As they do that, the state is adding the wall.