[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

really? to me they are the ones who can not read and interpret scientific research at all.

Odd. To me they are the ones with brains who look at all data and make their own decisions I guess some like being told what to believe. We get it. Thinking is difficult for some.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by NotGolfer

I'm getting to experience TVH for the first time in a handful of years. VERY busy with patients varying with reasons to be there.. The main thing I've observed so far. they are short on staffing. With that, my care has been kind and thoughtful. The triage nurse told me the shortages won't be getting better neither. By 2026 they're saying a nurses shortage of 1 million. That's pretty significant.

Well, you can thank the anti-vaxxers for that. The solution might be for lower or free higher education for Doctors or medical staff. Please do NOT just bring in immigrants to an already overpopulated and trouble-prone America! Reduce the time in school significantly for nurses and other medical staff and allow them to go to free night school or other flexible classes/ They will be getting on-the-job training as they go.

[Packer Fan]

Originally Posted by Vikingjunior

Don't worry the 70,000 that NY is firing will make there way to Florida.

That number is insane. My wife is an RN (still working). She doesn't know ONE healthcare provider that did not get vaccinated, and she knows and works with a LOT. They were allmost all vaccinated in January, and the few that chose to wait got it in April/May after they saw the results from the first groups. Now this is in Wisconsin, but believe me, the number is blown way out of proportion by the antivaxers. Do you really want to be served by Nurses too stupid to protect themselves? I don't. Believe me, you don't want my wife to lecture you either

[Packer Fan]

Originally Posted by askcarl

My Son-in-law has worked TVH covid-19 floor for over a year. $26 hour. Current storages of nursing staff being handled by temp Travel Nurses @ $5k a week. Because? Professional Medical staff don't want to live in "The Outback" (TV) for minimum wage. Why would I work here.. Low pay, low benifits, High work load, nothing for young people to do single or married with Kids (let's go line dance with Grandparents I don't know). Why would they live here?


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Carl

Please thank him. My best friend Chris almost died there in August, he credits them with saving his life. We came down to TV and Chris tested Positive the second day. Went into the TV hospital on Day 6 and got out 2 weeks later. One step from intubation and blood clots in legs and lungs (59 years old). My vaccinated wife and I took care of him for the first week. We were submerged in the Delta varriant and never got a sniffle - I can tell you both Pfizer(my wife) and Moderna (me) work VERY well.
He is entering week 9 on Saturday and is finally down to 2 1/2 liters a minute of oxygen.

He apologizes over and over to my RN wife and I for not listening and getting vaccinated - his best statement "This is definitely NOT the flu". When he was able, he posted on social media for everyone to get vaccinated. Well DUH!

When he was in there the place was overrun with Covid patients, it took him 4 days stay in the ER before he got an actual room. Our only complaint is they could communicate better, since Covid patients brains are basically totally fogged up and they have no idea what is going on. The doctor with facetimed with on the last day put it best "This hospital is overrun with antivaxxers, if everyone would get vaccinated, I could get a vacation for the first time in 2 years". He looked pretty beat.

As far as wages, Nurses up here make 30-40 an hour. many do the travel thing because they make huge money. There has always been a shortage. One of the issues is that many who finish school only last a few years and then leave - too much stress.
I keep telling my wife we should retire and move to TV now, and she can just do Travel nurse for like 20 weeks every winter in the TV hospital

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

unfortunately, I have heard from staff here that's it's more difficult than other places to find nurses who want to work here. the reason is that our population is all the same, older, and many die. It's not the most rewarding type of nursing so they go elsewhere.

Nurses have feelings too, and yes, dealing with the elderly day after day does wear on younger people who don't want to turn into us. . . but they will. . . they can get frustrated not understanding that everyone turns into us, unless they are unlucky prior. .

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ronsroni

I am horrified by the incredibly LOW salaries paid to nurses
(across all types) are paid.
In this time in history, nursing personnel are EXPECTED to put their lives on the line and work long hours for UNDER 35K.
ARE YOU INSANE?
Geography changes but the DANGERS of Covid and antivaxers DO NOT IMPROVE.
Get with it. You want more staff?
Shoot the lock off your wallets and PAY THE FRONT LINE PROFESSIONALS.

Very true, and the same could be said for teachers not being paid enough. And if that is ALL taken a step further - what part of society is ALL the wealth locked up in? And what was the mechanism by which that was allowed to or intentionally happened? Clue....It relates to Warren Buffet's statement that he WANTED to be taxed MORE.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by thelegges

I would bet you if are rolled in with a ruptured appendix, or a stemi, the last thing you will care about is who is vaccinated.

But if you do have that worry you can always walk out and find a different facility, or do the surgery yourself.
Just make sure you have a sharp knife. Vodka makes a good over the counter anesthetic, but it makes your hand shake a little.

Just remember they can live without you, most likely you will not live without them

I disagree with the content of this post.

[jdulej]

Originally Posted by Packer Fan

That number is insane. My wife is an RN (still working). She doesn't know ONE healthcare provider that did not get vaccinated, and she knows and works with a LOT. They were allmost all vaccinated in January, and the few that chose to wait got it in April/May after they saw the results from the first groups. Now this is in Wisconsin, but believe me, the number is blown way out of proportion by the antivaxers. Do you really want to be served by Nurses too stupid to protect themselves? I don't. Believe me, you don't want my wife to lecture you either

I agree with you on this. Both my wife and I are in the middle of some serious health issues here in TV and absolutely everyone we deal with is vaxxed at all the various Dr offices, clinics, the Village's Hosp and Ocala Regional. And they did not get their shots because someone made them do it.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

I would prefer the nurses who were heroes last year working during a pandemic be respected and allowed to help the patients in the Villages..Saying they should go elsewhere is saying neighbors should not be treated for heart attacks, strokes etc in a timely caring manner because there are not enough nurses.

If you can't be safe from the pandemic in a hospital, where can you be safe? The anti-vaxxers are causing this continuing Pandemic (that should be over by now). Why reward them with work when they are the PROBLEM, not the SOLUTION ?????

[justjim]

Originally Posted by Vikingjunior

Don't worry the 70,000 that NY is firing will make there way to Florida.

When the “end” comes it won’t be even one third of the 70,000 that will lose their jobs.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by askcarl

My Son-in-law has worked TVH covid-19 floor for over a year. $26 hour. Current storages of nursing staff being handled by temp Travel Nurses @ $5k a week. Because? Professional Medical staff don't want to live in "The Outback" (TV) for minimum wage. Why would I work here.. Low pay, low benifits, High work load, nothing for young people to do single or married with Kids (let's go line dance with Grandparents I don't know). Why would they live here?


Google up Nurse bonus Orlando, FL

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Carl

There are plenty of bars for younger people to go to and churches. They can find cheap rentals and Florida has a low cost of living so they could save money. And they could drive to Daytona on their days off. The problem REALLY is that the anti-vaxxers have prolonged the PANDEMIC. That allows the Virus to mutate and produces stronger CV. The problem is that we have a NATIONWIDE shortage due to being overwhelmed by CV.

[rmd2]

Been to The Villages Hospital ER 3 times in 10 years but would never go back there (8hr wait times are not unusual). Just go to the Ocala ERs (one on 466A, one on 44 Brownwood and one on 441 a couple of miles past Walmart). Almost instant help from these ERs.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Nurses have feelings too, and yes, dealing with the elderly day after day does wear on younger people who don't want to turn into us. . . but they will. . . they can get frustrated not understanding that everyone turns into us, unless they are unlucky prior. .

Speaking about nurses with feelings....with A.I. and robotics making great strides, I wonder how many years before some of the nurse's mundane tasks are taken over by robots. I won't live to see it - but maybe in about 30 or 40 years?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by jdulej

I agree with you on this. Both my wife and I are in the middle of some serious health issues here in TV and absolutely everyone we deal with is vaxxed at all the various Dr offices, clinics, the Village's Hosp and Ocala Regional. And they did not get their shots because someone made them do it.

No way could any economic unit like a business or a hospital get close to 100% of their employees vaccinated on a volunteer basis. that would be a dream world or New Zealand, but NOT America. A mandate needs to be REQUIRED FOR EMPLOYMENT........period!

[jdulej]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

No way could any economic unit like a business or a hospital get close to 100% of their employees vaccinated on a volunteer basis. that would be a dream world or New Zealand, but NOT America. A mandate needs to be REQUIRED FOR EMPLOYMENT........period!

I totally agree with you. My only point was that everyone we see was vaxxed a while ago. Any that are not, and refuse it, should be fired.