[Sandtrap328]

I would venture to guess that IF you have a golf cart that is capable of exceeding 20 mph - you WILL drive it at speeds over 20 mph.

[tuccillo]

That is the exact same situation as with a car. We all possess cars that have the capability to go in excess of the legal speed limit in every state. My question still stands; are golf carts fundamentally different than cars with regards to the legality of their capabilities.

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

I would venture to guess that IF you have a golf cart that is capable of exceeding 20 mph - you WILL drive it at speeds over 20 mph.

[tomwed]

The site mentioned above says if it can go over 20 mph it's an LSV. If it's an LSV it needs to be registered and insured.

A car that can go over all the road speed limits does not turn it into a different type of vehicle with a different set of rules.

That's the rub.

It reminds me of a moped. If a 2 wheeled vehicle can be peddled home with the motor off it's a moped not a scooter or motorcycle. I think I remember that correctly.

[biker1]

Good point, thanks.

Originally Posted by tomwed

The site mentioned above says if it can go over 20 mph it's an LSV. If it's an LSV it needs to be registered and insured.

A car that can go over all the road speed limits does not turn it into a different type of vehicle with a different set of rules.

That's the rub.

It reminds me of a moped. If a 2 wheeled vehicle can be peddled home with the motor off it's a moped not a scooter or motorcycle. I think I remember that correctly.

[Sandtrap328]

Originally Posted by tomwed

The site mentioned above says if it can go over 20 mph it's an LSV. If it's an LSV it needs to be registered and insured.

A car that can go over all the road speed limits does not turn it into a different type of vehicle with a different set of rules.

That's the rub.

It reminds me of a moped. If a 2 wheeled vehicle can be peddled home with the motor off it's a moped not a scooter or motorcycle. I think I remember that correctly.

Tell it to the judge!

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

Tell it to the judge!

Tell what to the judge?
It's a moped and not a motorcycle?
or
It's not an LSV it's a golf cart that goes over 20 mph?
or
Maybe I read it on a website and not from a .gov site that cites the law?

I think everyone is asking questions and seeking clarification so they never need to talk to a judge. I wish a judge would chime in.

or maybe you meant this is a good time to have a beer.
I'll drink to that.

[outlaw]

You are not required to register an LSV if you use it as a golf cart. You are only required to register an LSV if you want to drive your cart on public roads as if it is a car.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by outlaw

You are not required to register an LSV if you use it as a golf cart. You are only required to register an LSV if you want to drive your cart on public roads as if it is a car.

But wouldn't that include all the residential roads in TV?

[bimmertl]

Originally Posted by outlaw

You are not required to register an LSV if you use it as a golf cart. You are only required to register an LSV if you want to drive your cart on public roads as if it is a car.

If you get stopped going more than 20mph you'll get a ticket for an unregistered vehicle. Here's another quote from the recent Daily Sun article. "Golf carts driving more than 20mph must be registered as a street-legal golf cart, or low-speed vehicle, which is why regular golf carts caught speeding receive a heftier citation." You can't just "claim" it's not an LSV because you use it as a golf cart.

Is it really that hard to understand? You can argue all you want that it doesn't make sense but that's the way the law is written. Post #45 on this thread gives a first hand experience of what happens.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by bimmertl

If you get stopped going more than 20mph you'll get a ticket for an unregistered vehicle. Here's another quote from the recent Daily Sun article. "Golf carts driving more than 20mph must be registered as a street-legal golf cart, or low-speed vehicle, which is why regular golf carts caught speeding receive a heftier citation." You can't just "claim" it's not an LSV because you use it as a golf cart.

Is it really that hard to understand? You can argue all you want that it doesn't make sense but that's the way the law is written. Post #45 on this thread gives a first hand experience of what happens.

that's the way the law is written--looks that way
it doesn't make sense---that's certainly true

So now, here could be the unintended consequences of this idiotic "law"--

Any of the golf cart drivers who have a proclivity to speed or perceive themselves to be late, will stay at 20 and under on the public roads and diamond lanes, which are relatively safe. Then, they will try to make up time and get on the less safe, private property MMPs and run the Indy 500 to the detriment of the rest of us. Another example of bureaucrats and legislators having no sense of the real world.

[bagboy]

Originally Posted by bimmertl

If you get stopped going more than 20mph you'll get a ticket for an unregistered vehicle. Here's another quote from the recent Daily Sun article. "Golf carts driving more than 20mph must be registered as a street-legal golf cart, or low-speed vehicle, which is why regular golf carts caught speeding receive a heftier citation." You can't just "claim" it's not an LSV because you use it as a golf cart.

Is it really that hard to understand? You can argue all you want that it doesn't make sense but that's the way the law is written. Post #45 on this thread gives a first hand experience of what happens.

Correct. Should be period...end of story. But,.....

[cromlich]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

It sounds as though The Villlages Golf Cart store is not only covering their behinds in case of an issue of a "speeder" saying "I bought the cart from this store and I didn't know" as well as doing the proper thing.

Yesterday, I was in my cart on Morse going my 20 mph and another cart passes me and he was going about 30 (I guess) - he went out of the cart lane, of course. I bet he wishes that he had checked the surroundings. He had pulled out right in front of a Sumter County police car to pass me! YEP, he got pulled over immediately.

Figure around $500 for that mistake!

I know someone personally that got pulled over for speeding on Bailey and it is a felony. He even had to buy his way off of probation. His ticket cost him in excess of $900, he had to get his golf cart modified before the hearing and show proof it had been modified. The ticket was for driving an unregistered vehicle on the road or something like that. In other words it was not "street legal" and tagged with a license plate. It can be extremely expensive and as someone else said.....do not show up in court in shorts....come dressed as if you are going to church. All of the golf cart stores and repair businesses were sent letters that modifying golf carts to exceed the 19.5 miles an hour is illegal. It was a warning of things to come. We're all retired and where do we have to get so fast? Safety first.

[OhioBuckeye]

To put it in a nutshell Fraugoofy, it's a felony because the roads here in the Villages don't belong to The Villages, they're county roads & when you're speeding you're pick up because you're driving a vehicle without a license plate, so you're breaking the law because you don't have a plate on a motorize vehicle. That would be like you would be driving your car in The Villages, even if you didn't ever take your car out of The Villages.

[outlaw]

I don't think it's a felony on the MMPs, since they are not public roadways.

[outlaw]

There are many Parcars (LSV) in TV that are not licensed and are capable of going over 20 mph. They are also allowed on the MMPs and golf courses. They have a VIN, so they are capable of being registered and licensed. There are also GEMs(LSV) that drive on the MMPs. There really is a lot of grey area in the whole LSV arena.