[tuccillo]

That material went by the name of "Easy-base", IIRC - at least on instance of the material. It was intended to be the base material for roads and then covered with asphalt. I am familiar with one use of the material to construct golf cart paths (not covered with anything). This didn't work out well and the golf cart paths had to be removed. I am not aware of the current status of this material.

Originally Posted by Byte1

Did they actually say that it is RADIOACTIVE waste?
A while back, some roads were being paved with waste material left over from coal fueled power plants. Just saying. Cinders, I believe.
Before everyone panics, does anyone really think that EPA would allow dangerous materials to be used?
Oh well, this makes for a great discussion.

"...that will allow new roads in the state to be built with “radioactive” mining waste that has been linked to cancer." I wonder if this will cause health issues equal to or any more than the water we drink, sodas, alcohol, preservatives in our food, construction materials, automotive fuels, plastics used as food containers, etc. Seems to me that folks are living longer than ever, which many exceeding a hundred years. Surprising how anyone lives as long as they do with all this STRESS they contend with.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Did they actually say that it is RADIOACTIVE waste?
A while back, some roads were being paved with waste material left over from coal fueled power plants. Just saying. Cinders, I believe.
Before everyone panics, does anyone really think that EPA would allow dangerous materials to be used?
Oh well, this makes for a great discussion.

"...that will allow new roads in the state to be built with “radioactive” mining waste that has been linked to cancer." I wonder if this will cause health issues equal to or any more than the water we drink, sodas, alcohol, preservatives in our food, construction materials, automotive fuels, plastics used as food containers, etc. Seems to me that folks are living longer than ever, which many exceeding a hundred years. Surprising how anyone lives as long as they do with all this STRESS they contend with.

Good point. Let's check with the EPA:

On June 30, 2021, the EPA withdrew previously granted conditional approval to use phosphogypsum in government road construction projects.

It looks like the answer, at least as of two years ago, is no, they don't allow this dangerous material to be used.

Not sure how the State of Florida intends to get around this but <insert political comment here>

[maistocars]

Originally Posted by Pballer

DeSantis signs bill allowing new roads to be built with mining waste linked to cancer | The Hill

What will they think of next?

Always good to look into the actual bill and understand what is going on. Coming from a severely one-sided media outlet such as the article attached doesn't do anybody any good. Those outlets seem to really dislike how popular the Governor is and what a great job he is doing and will look to do anything to change that. Such a shame how things are reported.

[rogerk]

If we the people would.only take the time and effort to understand the facts! No, it’s much easier to let the politically biased media tell us what to think. Blame everything on big business and take the simple excuse: “follow the money “. Do you really think our legislators are all capable of analyzing and learning about every issue on their own? Lobbyists provide information and facts. It is up to our representatives to determine and try to understand the issues. Most of the time they do a reasonably good job. Please don’t let politics and election hysteria fool you.

If you really care enough, take the time to do your own research. Otherwise use common sense and not hysteria and ignorance to form your opinions!

[OhioBuckeye]

Seriously is this true or Fake news?

[haysus7]

It’s concerning for sure

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye

Seriously is this true or Fake news?

Not sure what you are referencing…was it “governor doing a good job”?🙂

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I'm not so worried about the finished product. My worry is the people who are hired to a) contain the material, b) transport the material, c) release the material to the property where the work will be done and d) directly work with the material to create the roadway once it's been dropped off at its location.

This is going to be insanely costly, and if employees are informed of the risks, it's possible they might not be willing to do the work. If that happens, it's possible that they won't be informed of the risks, and then we'll have multi-million/billion-dollar class action suits on our hands if any of them end up with cancer as a result of direct contact with the dust or fumes while doing the work.

Not to mention - who's going to be wearing full hazmat gear for several hours per day in the grueling hot Florida sun to do this work? It's not something you can just wear gloves for.

Don't you think everything you mentioned will be considered in the feasibility study, especially with the EPA monitoring it.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

As I understand it, the concern is less about the material when used as a roadway and more about what happens after the road is abandoned. When the road is abandoned that material becomes a soil contaminant that could potentially wind up in someone's back yard or foundation.

It's a long-term consideration which may or may not result in actual harm. The concern today is that this consideration is being ignored by using harmless-sounding words like feasibility study and demonstration project.

How many roads have been abandoned in this country? It is way too expensive to abandon an existing roadway to build a new one.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by Battlebasset

Thanks for pointing this out. My understanding is that the radioactivity is like radon, which many people have coming from their basements into their house, thus the need for radon mitigation systems.

In this case, it would be totally out in the open air, so the hazard should be mitigated. But, a study is a good idea, and if successful, would allow a waste product to be utilized vs landfilled/otherwise processed.

So a good thing.

~~ Just so you know ~~
Radon is naturally occurring in granite to all of you who have granite countertops in your kitchen and baths.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by Dotneko

Why, yes. Yes we do. An overwhelming number of Floridians voted for him.

And this, I believe, is where the buck will end!

[Bonanza]

QUOTE=Pballer;2230825]DeSantis signs bill allowing new roads to be built with mining waste linked to cancer | The Hill

What will they think of next?[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Robbb

Gee I wonder if there is a reasonable explanation for this....naaa couldn't be, sounds like DeSantis is trying to give us all cancer.

"The road to hell was paved with good intentions."

Cistercian abbot Saint Bernard of Clairvaux

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

Don't you think everything you mentioned will be considered in the feasibility study, especially with the EPA monitoring it.

I'm pretty confident that our governor doesn't really care what the EPA says or thinks about anything at all, and he'll FIND a way to get around any federal laws. He won't let the fed, or the taxpayers, stop him from doing whatever he wants.

[Hardlyworking]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I'm pretty confident that our governor doesn't really care what the EPA says or thinks about anything at all, and he'll FIND a way to get around any federal laws. He won't let the fed, or the taxpayers, stop him from doing whatever he wants.

What a load of BS.

[Fredster]

Originally Posted by Hardlyworking

What a load of BS.

And it’s intolerant political BS!