[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by NotGolfer

LOTS of crazy driving here and it's going to get worse as we grow. I would imagine you-all have read the article in today's Sun (front page main section) about cart safety. There must be a reason for that!!!

Educate the new element of the masses.

[Jhooman]

Hey Gracie,

You bring your six iron and I'll bring my seven iron, we will request other volunteers to bring their clubs and squirt guns. We will hang out on Morse Blvd and Buena Vista dispensing warer shots to offenders. If that doesn't work, we will bring out our golf clubs, take a few swings, showing off our lovely golf forms, trust me, these folks will never break the law again.

The Possee has been established.

[downeaster]

Originally Posted by RichieLion

I think I knew that. What was wrong with 25 mph? If 20 mph is safer, why not 15 mph? That would be even safer. Hey, maybe 10 mph. I'm on a roll now.

As a matter of fact, there are areas where the limit is 15 MPH.

This forum has indicated, by its posters, The Villages has a lot of drivers whose driving habits and abilities are suspect.

There are streets where there are vehicles exiting driveways, golf cart traffic, bicycles, pedestrians, parked cars and service vehicles. (Oak Forest is an example). I believe lowering the speed limits on these streets will make them safer. It would also make the extent of damage and/or injury less serious.

Unfortunately we have no idea of the numbers or extent of accidents that have occurred partly due to our local media's reluctance to report them. Those numbers are known to the police and traffic engineers and may be the reason for the speed limit reductions.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Jhooman

I saw the 20mph sign on Buena Vista and thought it was for the golf carts. Because another sign showed up later at 35mph.

I've been here 2 weeks, no one is going 35mph, imagine 20mph??? The workers are are flying around here in their trucks going about 50mph, seriously! I'm from Los Angeles where aggressive drivers dominate, the truckers here are scary, especially in the roundabouts.

Driving 20mph, it will be like bumper cars in Dizzyland. Plus, I haven't seen any police officers around giving out tickets to offenders.

What do I know, I've only been a Frogette for two weeks and I'm so grateful to be here. Dang, The Villages is gorgeous. But if one of those trucks mess with me, I swing a mean seven iron. Watch out boys, the Californian has arrived.

Where on Buena Vista is the speed limit 20MPH??

[buggyone]

The 20 mph limit is for the side streets. The main roads like Buena Vista, Canal, 466, and Morse will remain the same speed limit as they are now.

The side streets vary between 20 and 25 mph right now. This will make them all one speed limit.

Golf cart speeds remain the same limit of 20 mph.

[Bogie Shooter]

Jhooman saw a 20MPH on Buena Vista.......where on Buena Vista??

[Tom Hannon]

Originally Posted by buggyone

The 20 mph limit is for the side streets. The main roads like Buena Vista, Canal, 466, and Morse will remain the same speed limit as they are now.

The side streets vary between 20 and 25 mph right now. This will make them all one speed limit.

Golf cart speeds remain the same limit of 20 mph.

How bout Bailey Train and St. Charles? My golf cart goes 23 mph. Does that mean I will be passing cars? I'm not sure my Mini Cooper can idol at 20 mph.

[English Ivy]

Originally Posted by Tom Hannon

How bout Bailey Train and St. Charles? My golf cart goes 23 mph. Does that mean I will be passing cars? I'm not sure my Mini Cooper can idol at 20 mph.

I certainly hope you won't be passing cars at 23mph in your golf cart. Because that would mean you're already breaking a law by going faster than the legal 19.9/20 mph for a golf cart. Unless, of course, you have a street legal cart.

In case you didn't read it, here's an excerpt from the article in yesterday's paper about golf cart safety. The entire article can be read at this link: http://www.thevillagesdailysun.com/n...871e3ce6c.html

No need to speed

One area that local law enforcement officials routinely stress when it comes to golf cart safety is speed. Under Florida law, golf carts may not exceed 20 mph.

O’Hara said it’s important for residents to be aware of the speed of their carts — they can do so at regularly scheduled events held by local sheriff’s offices — because of that law.

If they are stopped by law enforcement, they could face stiff penalties. Wolfe said a person driving above 20 mph in a cart that is not insured and registered as a low-speed vehicle could receive a citation for lacking registration. At minimum, in Sumter County, golf cart drivers pulled over for exceeding the limit face a mandatory court appearance and court costs starting around $250. Further, they could receive court orders to return their golf cart to its original capabilities.

“It can kind of mess up your day if you receive that citation,” Wolfe said.

Don Harvey, a team leader for The Villages Golf Cars, said the issue of speed limits is important.

“Owners are voiding warranty, insurance purchased, damaging the golf car and are breaking the law by exceeding 20 mph,” Harvey said. “Speeding in a golf car accomplishes nothing positive except for getting somewhere a little quicker.”

[ajbrown]

Originally Posted by English Ivy

I certainly hope you won't be passing cars at 23mph in your golf cart. Because that would mean you're already breaking a law by going faster than the legal 19.9/20 mph for a golf cart. Unless, of course, you have a street legal cart.

Dang. I was wondering which way this thread would go after Tom's post. I had a dollar on someone saying the limits would not be changing on Baliey Trail, but speeding carts won out

[billethkid]

and the drivers here will go 20 like they do 35.....RARELY IF EVER!!!!

FL friendliest home town...as long as they are not behind the wheel!

btk

[cappyjon431]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Jhooman saw a 20MPH on Buena Vista.......where on Buena Vista??

I saw it too, southbound lane of Buena Vista just a little north of the El Camino Real circle,

BUT

If you read the fine print under the sign, it is just advising residents that the speed limits on streets in TV which are unmarked will now be 20 mph. It is not saying the speed limit on BV is 20 mph (and there is a 35 mph speed limit sign right after this advisory sign, obviously meaning BV is exempt from the 20 mph limit).

[rubicon]

Haven't gone any further than Orlando with my vehicle. Travel to Orlando about 4 times a year. Travel to Ocala about every third week or so which is leading me up to expalin that a toggle on my computer displays my car is averaging 27 mph. so chances are that with the 20mph residents will be averaging well under the 20mph limit. People in florida's Friendliest Town will be moving slowe than snail mail.....You gotta love it

[Shimpy]

This makes TV the worlds largest school zone.

[Bogie Shooter]

If you don't like it you can always petition the Sumter County Commissioners. They are the ones who made the changes.

[Jim 9922]

Anybody ever try to drive NO MORE than 20 MPH for 2 - 3 CONSECUTIVE miles in a real car ???!! Probably impossible unless you are driving in first gear or going thru Atlanta during the rush hour! This should be a wonderful revenue producer for the county's coffers. This half baked law should earn us a better speed trap reputation than those redneck speed trap towns on HY 301 coming down from the North.
I can't ever remember seeing any notices published that this 20 mph law was even being considered. Another example of underworked, overpaid, and uneducated bureaucrats worring about our "safety" even though most of us have managed quite fine with common sense for our 65 to 90 years. Next it will be seat belts for bicycles to keep us from falling off or mandatory trikes to keep from falling over.