[jebartle]

Originally Posted by joseppe

Facts do nothing but cloud the issue. "In God we trust" without any facts to prove her existence. You don't need facts when you have faith that something is right.

Fact checking of course should be based not on your political persuasion but on the cumulation of all facts and then and only then, YOUR conclusion. Hopefully Americans will listen, study and then conclude, but this requires effort. Misinformation is based on Americans getting their info from social media or cable opinion pieces but if those same folks would go to reputable sources, the truth will more than likely be the result.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by bucco

i do the same in checking valid reputable sources on both sides, ignoring opinion pieces, and find most all agree every time on anything substantive.

Problem is the fringe "sources" skew facts, and even videos.

Then, knowing facts and truth, i allow myself to listen to opinions, and in doing so learn the maturity level of those folks, and gradually whittle down those folks al.

Valid news media like the times, post, etc pretty much have editorial process in place that insures you are getting the straight scoop.

i wish we can take your last paragraph and smoke it

[richs631]

Originally Posted by jebartle

Lots of misinformation out there. It's so easy to check your fact checking source.

The problem with fact checking is the people who do fact checking

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by bucco

i do the same in checking valid reputable sources on both sides, ignoring opinion pieces, and find most all agree every time on anything substantive.

Problem is the fringe "sources" skew facts, and even videos.

Then, knowing facts and truth, i allow myself to listen to opinions, and in doing so learn the maturity level of those folks, and gradually whittle down those folks al.

Valid news media like the times, post, etc pretty much have editorial process in place that insures you are getting the straight scoop.

yes, i've seen those scoops on the shelf next to the immodium a&d extra strength. No prescription required

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by bucco

i suppose it could be.

But, the times is considered the single best source for news in the world. I have been reading the times, among others for many years, and knowing the journalistic exercise the reporters are required it is a great source.

I also suppose, well i know...attitude of the reader is important. I have gone to the news "above the fold" in the times, expecting to read certain news, only to be disappointed in what happened. That helps me, because i approach my news as a learning experience, and not a validation of what i think.

The summary, usually on page 2 is a great way to begin your day.

I seldom read the times opinion pieces, not because i disagree, but i prefer to make my opinions based on the facts. Now, admittedly, i have left the times and checked other sources...never a cable news show, and if needed continue to read.

Reuters is a good source....pbs is usually dependable.

Again, attitude of the reader is important. If you are looking for factual news, i, and most of the world consider the times top notch, but if you simply want easy validation of what you already think, it's not for you.

the funeral for the times has had an open coffin for the last several years

[banjobob]

Originally Posted by jebartle

Lots of misinformation out there. It's so easy to check your fact checking source.

A famous politician said “ we don’t need facts we need truth”

[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by Vette2014

Just ask Joe and Ho

what did you just call our VP-elect?

[jimh24444@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by jebartle

Lots of misinformation out there. It's so easy to check your fact checking source.

Wikipedia gives you different answers to the same question depending on the algorithm the AI has set up for you. Same with others sources. AI is controlling all answers. See "Social Dilemma" on Netflix if this is news to you.