[Woodbear]

Sounds like a great opportunity for sales if you live in a border State. We just dumped our electric mower for gas.

[Ruger2506]

I'm not necessarily a "Green" person, but. Known fact that 2-cycle gas engines are sources of CO2 and pollutants.

And more power. Love 2-storke engines.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Ruger2506

And more power. Love 2-storke engines.

Gotta love the two stroke outboards. Many fishing lakes up north have a 10 H.P. Limit, and they haven’t made 2 stroke outboards for many many years. My 2 stroke 9.9 HP 1986 Mercury outboard rocks. The weight to power ratio is the equivalent of almost double the HP of a four stroke and gets my boat up on plane no problem. There is now way my boat would get up on plane with a 10 HP 4 banger. That little smoking engine is worth its weight in gold.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Gasoline 2- stroke weed-eaters and grass blowers are EXTREMELY noisy. They bother me when I am inside my house if they are as close as 4 houses away. And I will delay my working outside in my yard until the noise makers are gone. Noise is basically detrimental to a person's health. It is also bad for the operator of noisy equipment. And I wonder how many wear ear protection?

Ear protection would help you from the noisy machines 4 houses away. By the way, electric grass blowers also make noise.

Perhaps we should ban all blowers and edge clippers and go back to hand clippers and rakes. No noise and no CO2.

For that matter electricity is created by 60% Fossil Fuels, 20 % Nuclear, and 20% renewable energy.

So that says that even those using current EVs, etc are participating in the global heating issue. Perhaps sell the EV and go Solar Power (SP). Not ready yet? Too expensive? Can't afford? Don't let that stop you. Remember, the oceans are rising?

[josephchiro]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

From USA Today:

Gas-powered leaf blowers have been around since the early 1970s, but over time, the lawn care device has received criticism from angry neighbors and eco-conscious lawmakers, some of whom have issued bans citing pollution, noise and health risk concerns.

From the state of California to the District of Columbia, bans against the sale of gas-powered leaf blowers continue to pile up. In Washington, D.C., under the Leaf Blower Regulation Amendment Act of 2018, companies or individuals who use gasoline-powered leaf blowers are subject to fines of up to $500 for each offense.

In California, lawmakers passed AB1346, which banned the sale of gas-powered leaf blowers and weed whackers by July 1, 2024.

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I'm not necessarily a "Green" person, but. Known fact that 2-cycle gas engines are sources of CO2 and pollutants.

I am a bit biased here, as we have an EV and a lithium batt golf cart. Love them both.

Irritating when following gas golf carts and especially thru tunnels. When we play golf with folks we try to lead the GC pack on the course paths. A few of our friends have newer gas carts and the fumes are... not good.

I'm TOTALLY certain that these comments will fall on deaf ears and eyes. Of course, and no one will then sell their gas cart. Freedom in the USA is great.

EVs and Lithium batt golf carts have come such a long way the last few years. And for many reasons we chose to go with both. (BTW 90miles range on our Cart, 341 on our EV). NO maintenance and they leave our garage with a tank full of electrons. Oh, forgot we have a lithium batt powered lawn mower and accessories.

I'm not against any battery power, but question what will happen when these lithium batteries run their lifespan? Large Golf cart batteries and car lithium batteries are expensive to dispose of and replace. Will a Lithium battery powered golf cart essentially be completely disposable due to the cost of a replacement battery vs an entire new cart?

[Angelhug52]

Developer missed a cash opportunity. Should have included lawn care in amenity fees . Had total control over lawn cutting. Better yet let's all plant dandelions and wildflowers. Or maybe a few veggies. Perfect lawns serve no purpose. Stop spraying poison and wasting water.Plant only what is native or grows in this region.Imagin the savings and natural beauty? Aww and the quiet.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by josephchiro

I'm not against any battery power, but question what will happen when these lithium batteries run their lifespan? Large Golf cart batteries and car lithium batteries are expensive to dispose of and replace. Will a Lithium battery powered golf cart essentially be completely disposable due to the cost of a replacement battery vs an entire new cart?

What does it cost to dispose of a lithium battery from a golf cart? What does it cost to replace a lithium battery from a golf cart?

With the price of carts going up and the price of batteries going down, it is unlikely the the cart will essentially be completely disposable due to the cost of a replacement battery.

I believe the warranty on my battery is eight years. Given that the manufacturer does not want to cover warranty claims, I expect the battery to last at least ten years. Seeing the advance in technology over the past three years, I won't be replacing the battery in ten years, I'll be ready for an upgrade with an entirely new cart.

[huge-pigeons]

I’ll never to these id$&! In California, or in DC, or NY and other states.
EV’s won’t be ready for prime time for another 1 to 2 decades. Range is low (it’s only 80% of what an EV states is their range), still takes 10 times longer to charge up compared to filling up with gas, not enough chargers, and battery technology is still hazardous waste when time for replacement. I know companies in the west that had to buy 2 EV semis to replace 1 diesel semi because the EV wouldn’t last the full day, so they have an EV semi charging ready to tackle the last 1/2 the day deliveries.
Battery powered leaf blowers are not there yet. There is no battery powered backpack leaf blower that can compete with the gas backpack blowers.
As for gas golf carts, they are quiet, you can’t smell them, long range, and gas is available. My gas cart will outlast an EV golf cart’s battery and it will cost $3000-$4000 to replace the lithium battery in a golf cart plus it’s hazardous waste, dirtying up our water supply.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by huge-pigeons

I’ll never to these id$&! In California, or in DC, or NY and other states.
EV’s won’t be ready for prime time for another 1 to 2 decades. Range is low (it’s only 80% of what an EV states is their range), still takes 10 times longer to charge up compared to filling up with gas, not enough chargers, and battery technology is still hazardous waste when time for replacement. I know companies in the west that had to buy 2 EV semis to replace 1 diesel semi because the EV wouldn’t last the full day, so they have an EV semi charging ready to tackle the last 1/2 the day deliveries.
Battery powered leaf blowers are not there yet. There is no battery powered backpack leaf blower that can compete with the gas backpack blowers.
As for gas golf carts, they are quiet, you can’t smell them, long range, and gas is available. My gas cart will outlast an EV golf cart’s battery and it will cost $3000-$4000 to replace the lithium battery in a golf cart plus it’s hazardous waste, dirtying up our water supply.

With the exception of leaf blowers, all these points have been discussed, disputed, or debunked in the numerous gas vs electric threads of the past.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by huge-pigeons;2436296

I’ll never to these id$&! In California, or in DC, or NY and other states.
EV’s won’t be ready for prime time for another 1 to 2 decades..

Europe will disagree with you, as will most anyone in the industry.

Originally Posted by huge-pigeons

still takes 10 times longer to charge up compared to filling up with gas, .

20 minutes to 80%? Within 5 years, that will be down to less than 10 minutes.

Originally Posted by huge-pigeons

My gas cart will outlast an EV golf cart’s battery and it will cost $3000-$4000 to replace the lithium battery in a golf cart plus it’s hazardous waste, dirtying up our water supply.

Not that long ago, everyone's phone was made from Bakelite and they would last for 50 years. Where are they now?

[dougawhite]

What's the reason Villagers can't install fake lawns. The new types are nearly indistinguishable from a well-kept real lawn. I would probably switch out to fake if it was allowed. No irrigation, no chemicals, no weeds. Heaven!

[mrf6969]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

Where are you getting your information about golf cart sales? It seems Yamaha Quite Tech is still the top selling model.

They are and anyone that says they are noisy is just presenting their personal agenda.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That sounds pretty "Green" to me. Let those electrons run free. Way to be good to the environment and keeping it quiet in your neighborhood also. I bet that you can smell the (CO2) emitting gas carts when you go through that tunnel - I am choking just THINKING about it. Also that (CO2) rises and reflects heat back to the earth. That is why the last 10 years have gotten warmer and the Hurricanes larger - and MORE are predicted for this year. But, I feel good that SOMEDAY more people will realize that E-vehicles are less costly to operate and there is the convenience of NEVER having to go-to a gasoline station for that smelly inflammable stuff. And as a bonus they are more reliable and less noisy - especially those disgusting, noisy, anti-social for your neighbors leaf blowers. Personally, I like to rake the leaves in my yard manually - it strengths your back muscles.

I see you home from vacation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGa_4vp3rNE

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by dougawhite

What's the reason Villagers can't install fake lawns. The new types are nearly indistinguishable from a well-kept real lawn. I would probably switch out to fake if it was allowed. No irrigation, no chemicals, no weeds. Heaven!

Not good for landscaping business especially relative’s. Same with metal roofs. Sure some districts may allow the high price metal singles style but not type that’s on all developers buildings.

[gorillarick]

The blower portion of the gas or electric blower makes a lot of noise by itself. Yes, the gas engines are also noisy, some worse than others.
But, moving to electric will not get rid of ALL the obnoxious noise.

Another but, I'm all for banning gas-powered blowers.

And yet another irritation; watching the crews blowing grass and dirt down the drains, and into the middle of the streets.
I can understand the unregulated and uneducated crews running around our neighborhoods doing this; but TV contractors (or employees) do it also.
Not good.