[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by Raywatkins

We are Brits and have to pay about $7.50 per gallon.
We will hopefully be back in TV in a weeks time for the first time in 2 years.
So looking forward to seeing our house again as well as our great friends and neighbours.
When we have to buy gas we will be so pleased at the price.
So we just smile when we hear complaints about US gas prices.

I read online that about 72% of the gas price in the UK is for taxes - both fuel duty and Value Added Tax (VAT). That means that the actual price is only about 28% of price at the pump.

It is like the price of cigarettes. In some states, the government makes more per pack than Big Tobacco.

I don’t smoke but I do drive!!

[irishwonone]

Originally Posted by rutha

nice try but shutting down the keystone pipeline and passing extreme regulations against the oil, gas and coal industry doesn't have anything to do with it? Must be nice to be so willfully blind to the real reasons.

yes it must be!

[Blackbird45]

I could be wrong, but I remember repletely hearing that the Canadian oil that was going through the pipe line was not designated for use in the U.S., only refined here and then ship to foreign ports

[KAM+6]

Originally Posted by RuthA

Nice try but shutting down the keystone pipeline and passing extreme regulations against the oil, gas and coal industry doesn't have anything to do with it? Must be nice to be so willfully blind to the real reasons.

As long as its not going anywhere near your town. A friend who was furious that they shutdown the pipeline was furious that Amazon wanted to put a warehouse on the fringe of his town. Technically in his town but not "in", just off 95.

**not all electric vehicles depend on coal/power plants to operate them.

Those solar panels you see on homes in the sunshine state generate enough for the car and house.

The variance between... fuel prices jumping and SECO electric jumping is night and day.

I'd bet on electric.. and... solar if it were me. (wait it was me)

My first home had electric heat and I was terrified... until they told me it's 100% efficient. (not many oil/gas systems are 100% efficient)

A reason why electric vehicles are so hard to buy right now. - it's the future.

[Curtisbwp]

And The the worse is yet to come....

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by wsachs

Where does Enbridge oil go?

In short, much of the oil transported through Line 5 originates in western Canada, is shipped through Michigan and the Great Lakes, and refined in Canada for markets back in Canada and overseas. We won't miss anything.

How's the quote go again??? Oh yeah....DON'T CONFUSE ME WITH THE FACTS, MY MIND'S ALREADY MADE UP!!!!!

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by RuthA

Nice try but shutting down the keystone pipeline and passing extreme regulations against the oil, gas and coal industry doesn't have anything to do with it? Must be nice to be so willfully blind to the real reasons.

Ahhh....care to back up with facts anything you just said???
Keystone was shutdown in 2017
Name the extreme regulations....any of them!!

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by rsmurano

You can’t compare gas costs here vs anywhere else in the world. Most countries don’t produce gas just import it. The USA has the ability to be a giant exporter of gas along with supplying our country with cheaper gas (look back just 1 year). Everybody knows why this is happening to us here. This process is only hurting the middle class and the poor because when gas goes up in price, so does most everything else

One year ago (2020) we were exporting oil.....because nobody was driving their cars, and the country was in lockdown!!! You do remember that don't you????

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

Ahhh....care to back up with facts anything you just said???
Keystone was shutdown in 2017
Name the extreme regulations....any of them!!

That was a shutdown of the OLD Keystone pipeline...

And it was not the NEW Keystone XL pipeline that everyone on this thread is talking about

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

One year ago (2020) we were exporting oil.....because nobody was driving their cars, and the country was in lockdown!!! You do remember that don't you????

Then please explain why it was also the case in 2019, BEFORE Covid lockdowns...

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by DAIII

**not all electric vehicles depend on coal/power plants to operate them.

Those solar panels you see on homes in the sunshine state generate enough for the car and house.

The variance between... fuel prices jumping and SECO electric jumping is night and day.

I'd bet on electric.. and... solar if it were me. (wait it was me)

My first home had electric heat and I was terrified... until they told me it's 100% efficient. (not many oil/gas systems are 100% efficient)

A reason why electric vehicles are so hard to buy right now. - it's the future.

You driving a Tesla or pumping gas these days?

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon

The longer we are so dependent on fossil fuels, the longer they will continue to tyrannize our economy.

Make sure your bicycle is in tip top shape

[ithos]

Originally Posted by DAIII

**not all electric vehicles depend on coal/power plants to operate them.

Those solar panels you see on homes in the sunshine state generate enough for the car and house.

The variance between... fuel prices jumping and SECO electric jumping is night and day.

I'd bet on electric.. and... solar if it were me. (wait it was me)

My first home had electric heat and I was terrified... until they told me it's 100% efficient. (not many oil/gas systems are 100% efficient)

A reason why electric vehicles are so hard to buy right now. - it's the future.

You are ignoring the inefficient part of the equation. If the electricity is generated by using fossil fuel those efficiencies are around 30 to 45% at the power plant. When using fuel oil to heat your home it is about 90%. Electric strip heaters are one of the most expensive ways to heat your home.

However, an ICE is about 30% efficient which is one of the reasons why electric vehicles are often cheaper to operate than ones that use gasoline.

[DaleDivine]

Originally Posted by thevillages2013

Make sure your bicycle is in tip top shape

Get an E-Bike...