[bonrich]

Originally Posted by Normal

Literally, sprinkle the poles with heavy duty glitter! It would be all seasons visually clear.

Finally, a good idea! Practical, easy to apply, change with seasons. I envision contests between Villages, glam and glitter, camo, and mix in high profile sight.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

There are 4 gates I could go through to get to my house, 3 are not attended.

But, do they have visitors gates with guard?

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

But, do they have visitors pass?

Do you mean a visitor gate? If there is not a visitor gate and residents gate, the single gate has a Red Button and availability to use gate pass. Richmond has one entrance with gate house with 2 gates and at the other entrance no gate house and only one gate with a red button

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

But, do they have visitors pass?

If they're coming off of a circle, usually. Or on Moyer Loop at both ends, Deskin Loop after you turn off Morse...

Same with Hillsboro and Pinellas, and Odell Loop where they cross Morse and Buena Vista if memory serves me...

Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head...

[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

But, do they have visitors pass?

I'm confused. Visitor pass? Visitors, landscapers, delivery trucks, anyone without a gate card approaching an unmanned gate uses the RED BUTTON.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Normal

Literally, sprinkle the poles with heavy duty glitter! It would be all seasons visually clear.

Not sure that's a great idea. Some of our more lascivious residents will take the glitter as a sign that they should try to stuff dollar bills in the gate arm's G-string

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by bonrich

Finally, a good idea! Practical, easy to apply, change with seasons. I envision contests between Villages, glam and glitter, camo, and mix in high profile sight.

Glam, glitz and glitter, great. But NO to camo! What were you thinking? The idea is to increase visibility and awareness, not hide them.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Dusty_Star

I'm confused. Visitor pass? Visitors, landscapers, delivery trucks, anyone without a gate card approaching an unmanned gate uses the RED BUTTON.

You would think so. But apparently some don't.

[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Not sure that's a great idea. Some of our more lascivious residents will take the glitter as a sign that they should try to stuff dollar bills in the gate arm's G-string

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by Michael 61

Besides paying the cost of a new gate, the guilty party should also pay for admin fees, a hefty punitive fine, and be ticketed as well.

Hummm, any idea when that will actually happen ?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

Hummm, any idea when that will actually happen ?

Probably never.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by Drammy

I’ve been saying for a long time that the gate arms need better reflection. They are just too worn and dull.

Originally Posted by RobinM

Just yesterday we approached (from inside) the Calumet gate. My husband was driving and he remarked that the gate was camouflaged by the vegetation across the street. I’ve been thinking that for a long time but thought it might just be my eyesight. Nope. You can hardly see that the gate is there until you’re practically up to it. I’m sure it’s not the only one.

Originally Posted by deejew

I have long wondered why the gate arms are not painted with an obnoxious neon color. I have perfect vision and I am surprised how many times I have had to do a double take when approaching from bright sun into a shadowed gate area (ie, Morse approaching 466) where the gate arms are frequently left up so your assumption is its not there. Clearly a bad assumption, but I'm not surprised people hit them with regularity. Seems a little paint or even a flashing LED could go a long way.

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

You know the gates are there, so just STOP !!!!

I have mentioned more than once that it has long been established that the reflective "optic green" is easier to see than reflective red, which is why you see the firefighters, EMTs, and roadside construction workers all wear optic green. I was invited to take my suggestion to the local agency in charge.
I was also referred to the Florida DOT site.
As it turns out, they all refer to Federal standards which dictate the red we see here. However, with written permission, other agencies may incorporate other, more visible, alternatives.

I could see it becoming a bureaucratic mess trying to effect any change. There are definitely some gates that are well hidden by mottled sunlight, background vegetation, low glaring early morning or late evening sunlight. The gate exiting Liberty Park, going eastbound on St. Charles at the Buena Vista roundabout is nearly invisible at times, and I know it's there. Unfortunately, as many here seem to forget, not everyone who travels the roads in TV are local residents. So the "YOU KNOW IT'S THERE!!" argument is silly and foolish.

However, the speed limit reduces to a crawl at all of these gates, and if someone actually hits the gate, they were probably ignoring the signage warning them to slow down.

It is almost laughable, the condition of some of the gate arms. The one I speak of at Liberty Park looks as if it has been dragged behind a truck for a few miles, yet they just bolt it back up, even more difficult to see than it was before it got knocked down (again).

However, as a frequent user of a golf cart, I am glad they are there to help me get across the busy streets, and I am very careful as I proceed across one that is missing.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Laker14

I have mentioned more than once that it has long been established that the reflective "optic green" is easier to see than reflective red, which is why you see the firefighters, EMTs, and roadside construction workers all wear optic green. I was invited to take my suggestion to the local agency in charge.
I was also referred to the Florida DOT site.
As it turns out, they all refer to Federal standards which dictate the red we see here. However, with written permission, other agencies may incorporate other, more visible, alternatives.

I could see it becoming a bureaucratic mess trying to effect any change. There are definitely some gates that are well hidden by mottled sunlight, background vegetation, low glaring early morning or late evening sunlight. The gate exiting Liberty Park, going eastbound on St. Charles at the Buena Vista roundabout is nearly invisible at times, and I know it's there. Unfortunately, as many here seem to forget, not everyone who travels the roads in TV are local residents. So the "YOU KNOW IT'S THERE!!" argument is silly and foolish.

However, the speed limit reduces to a crawl at all of these gates, and if someone actually hits the gate, they were probably ignoring the signage warning them to slow down.

It is almost laughable, the condition of some of the gate arms. The one I speak of at Liberty Park looks as if it has been dragged behind a truck for a few miles, yet they just bolt it back up, even more difficult to see than it was before it got knocked down (again).

However, as a frequent user of a golf cart, I am glad they are there to help me get across the busy streets, and I am very careful as I proceed across one that is missing.

Umm...Let's see: Take the exit gate at Liberty Park cited as an example. The residents of Liberty Park KNOW it's there. The landscapers working there KNOW it's there. Most other workers KNOW it's there. I would think that any visitor KNOWS it's there after their first time exiting. So we are left with the miniscule percentage of first time visitors on their first time through who are pretty much blind. So, tell us again how the argument is "silly and foolish"

[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by Laker14

The gate exiting Liberty Park, going eastbound on St. Charles at the Buena Vista roundabout is nearly invisible at times, and I know it's there. Unfortunately, as many here seem to forget, not everyone who travels the roads in TV are local residents. So the "YOU KNOW IT'S THERE!!" argument is silly and foolish.

I find that astounding. The exit/entrance at Liberty Park is the beautiful red, white & blue one with the white fencing. Even if the ARM itself is hard to see at times, the actual approach to the intersection has signs & is apparent.

Also, astute visitors having had to negotiate the entrance, should probably expect something at the exit - even if they didn't notice it upon entering.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by Dusty_Star

I find that astounding. The exit/entrance at Liberty Park is the beautiful red, white & blue one with the white fencing. Even if the ARM itself is hard to see at times, the actual approach to the intersection has signs & is apparent.

Also, astute visitors having had to negotiate the entrance, should probably expect something at the exit - even if they didn't notice it upon entering.

I agree. I wasn't trying to make a case that it is understandable that it would get knocked down, merely agreeing with the comment that some are hard to see, for a variety of reasons.

I think I mentioned that that there are also signs warning us to slow down. I am amazed sometimes at how fast people will try to zip through these areas, which is also why I am glad the devices are in place, so I have a chance to cross in my golf cart. Without the gates it would be much scarier.