[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by dhdallas

The gates are already painted in nice visible colors and are at eye level. Repainting them in dayglo neon green, orange or whatever wouldn’t make a difference to these people. Remember you have to LOOK to see them.

I will agree that it is hard to see under some circumstances such as popping open another beer, texting or otherwise using a cell phone, speeding, in too big of a hurry to see if the gate is fully raised, and other critically important tasks!

Without gates, the intersection of cart path & car entrance would be similar to the intersection of a ‘Figure-8” race track. Carnage & mayhem would soon follow.

We do NEED the gates so what is the answer? I would suggest doubling the fines/replacement costs to the offender and ADD speed bumps (not replace the gates with speed bumps).

Is that golfers special handicap sticker I see on the windshield?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Joeyb

I’m moved here in July. For a retirement area, I have never seen as many folks impatient and in such a big hurry. You all need to slow down! Someone wrote they skidded to a stop...skidded! Shouldn’t be going fast enough to skid going through a gate! There is no need to “beat” the arm from closing either as they all have sensors and won’t close until your vehicle passes. SLOW DOWN PEOPLE! Frankly, I’m tired of being tailgated and witnessing many racing around at 20 mph faster than posted speed limits. People in our own village must all have somewhere to be that it is more important for them rather than respecting the safety of those around them. If local law enforcement would simply start smacking some with speeding fines, this would stop quickly. My middle finger has been getting some heavy use. rather than enjoying a car ride up Morse Blvd, it is usually quite stressful. I guess I’ll have to continue my friendly “wave”. It’s actually sad.

Good post, excellent. Kudos! You would think that all-day every-day - rush hour was going on in TV Land. I notice that also. We must have too many fully caffeinated ex-hot rod enthusiasts here. And the lawn service people race around with large, heavy trailers playing the child's game, "We don't stop for nobody". They also like to park in the middle of small residential streets. That is one of their favorite jokes. Welcome to elderly Crazyville!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Lyn Wagner

I think a speed bump or two would help.

Why punish the MANY for the sins of the FEW. Better to give out LARGE speeding tickets - more equitable - and reward good behavior by police giving free gift vouchers from local stores to drivers maintaining safe speeds on a lottery basis. 'Catch more flies with honey than vinegar"......just saying?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by wmcgowan

some people are red - xxxx colorblind - yellow is better

Also, as we age we get more cataracts which slowly DULL the brilliance of the colors. Ask anyone how improved colors are AFTER a cataracts operation.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Catalina36

I just don't understand the Crashing of the Gates?? Some people suggested Yellow instead of Red?? Some people said the Gates are hard to see at night?? This is simple. There is a gate house and the entrance alone should be enough for you to remember there is a Gate there. The Gate goes up and then you proceed. How about SLOWING DOWN and stop being in a RUSH to get where your going. STOP BLAMING THE GATES, ITS THE DRIVERS.

Not ALL gates have gate HOUSES!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Jhnidy

Why are the gates even there? So phoney

The gates are there to create an ambiance, to create an ILLUSION of SECURITY. Many TV Landers buy into that illusion (literally and pay up for their property). Then they leave their homes unlocked and the criminals take over from there. TV Land is a soft and profitable target for local crime. We are NOT a true gated community.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by bluecenturian

Not completely accurate.

The most visible color, especially at night is green. It’s a major reasons firearm lights are green. They use red also because the green wavelength requires more power than red.

Red is the most recognizable color, meaning the eye distinguishes it from background colors more easily. And red has been psychological taught to us to mean stop.

White reflects the most light, more than a mirror. This is a big reason safety equipment (signs, lights) are red & white. The reflective material used also increases red and white much more than yellow.

Yellow, although is a highly visible color was chosen for street lines because of its visibility but more so because of its already psychological idea to mean safety. Traffic signals existed before markings and motorist already associated yellow with caution. Yellow and white are also the most contrasting colors to black pavement, hence why its yellow over red.

So it’s not only the colors but what other colors that it needs to contrast with.

I disagree with the statement. "the most visible color is green". if so, why then would most summer camouflage be variations of green? Why would flowers be red and yellow? If green were the brightest then leaves would be yellow and flowers would be green. Also, green leaves are dark to ABSORBE sunlight not reflect it. Green is NOT bright in THIS world!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by PaulinTV

Maybe we should suggest putting a round-a-bout in place of the gates.......

Single lane round-about would be OK by me. But, the idea is to sell the illusion of security.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Cheryl Barrios

Just asking - Is it his duty to change because he's reacting to the very poor and probably illegal behavior of another driver? Or should it be the duty of the poor and probably illegal behavior of the other driver to change? And is it legal for someone to drive illegally or aggressively and then shoot and kill someone because they stuck a finger up at them? Wow. Just Wow.

Ah yes, the philosophic and moral dilemma between "might and right".

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by candlweav

Sorry, I'm on the other side of that coin. Some folks may be Type A and some Type B but, regardless of their mode, there is no need to be inconsiderate. As tired as you are of tailgaters, I'm just as tired of people who impose their preferences onto me. There's always that question; are they holding me to their speed because they're oblivious or because they're defiant? You sound an awful lot like the latter. Frankly, neither approach is earning consideration. Hey, I'm getting old and my time is short - I need to get moving so I can get it all done!

That seems like Bizzaroland to me - where older people have a NEED and therefore a right to drive faster? Older eyes and slower reflexes would logically mean less SPEEDING.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by mramsett

I get so irritated by the way the guards at the gates let the cars through without even stopping them for an appropriate amount of time. The cars on the left are trying to avoid using their gate cards and are looking for a fast way to get through the gate. It is extremely dangerous for the driver who has used his/her card correctly and has stopped. When he she starts to move forward the car on the left dashes through to beat him/her. The car on the left should yield to the car using the card and the guard at the gate should be watching to make sure this happens by not opening the gate till it is appropriate and avoids this problem. I saw an accident almost happen the other day because of this type of situation and the driver on the left honked at the driver on the right. The guard should be trained to watch this. If you are a resident, use your card!!! That is a misuse of the left gate.

True that! The left incoming gate lane should be used only for people seeking information. Not a quicker way in. If the gatekeeper moved real, real, really slowly, maybe people would get the hint.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by gwenhwalker@yahoo.com

Stop signs would work if positioned correctly for cart passings

But, no illusion of exclusivity!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Not ALL gates have gate HOUSES!

Why is that?

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The gates are there to create an ambiance, to create an ILLUSION of SECURITY. Many TV Landers buy into that illusion (literally and pay up for their property). Then they leave their homes unlocked and the criminals take over from there. TV Land is a soft and profitable target for local crime. We are NOT a true gated community.

Be that as it may but there is very little crime here.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The gates are there to create an ambiance, to create an ILLUSION of SECURITY. Many TV Landers buy into that illusion (literally and pay up for their property). Then they leave their homes unlocked and the criminals take over from there. TV Land is a soft and profitable target for local crime. We are NOT a true gated community.

Just how much local crime have you seen? It’s certainly not the level you are implying.