[VAtoFLA]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Except there’s another factor, and that’s the speed limit. I couldn’t care less about holding up a cart that wants to go 27 when I’m going 20. I do care about the cart ahead of me going 12

You're not the police. Taking it on yourself to block faster traffic is contributing to the dangerous situation you presumably want to control. You don't cause it, the speeder does, but you are explicitly contributing in your response.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by VAtoFLA

You're not the police. Taking it on yourself to block faster traffic is contributing to the dangerous situation you presumably want to control. You don't cause it, the speeder does, but you are explicitly contributing in your response.

You missed the point entirely. I am not blocking traffic or acting as the police by driving on a MMP at 20 mph. We are not talking about multilane highways and cars where you can move right if someone wants to pass, in fact the law obligates you to move over. We are talking about golf carts on MMPs, and if they are capable of exceeding 20 mph they are considered a LSV, and the owner can be subject to a citation for an unregistered motor vehicle. I have no intention of modifying my cart so that it is ILLEGAL, so somebody is happier speeding down the MMP, nor am I under any obligation to pull over on a MMP when I am going 20 mph to let the other type of BOZO pass. If you can safely pass, go for it, I don't care. But I am under no legal obligation whatsoever to accommodate YOU. In your scenario, I would need to break the law myself in order to not "explicitly contribute".

[VAtoFLA]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You missed the point entirely. I am not blocking traffic or acting as the police by driving on a MMP at 20 mph. We are not talking about multilane highways and cars where you can move right if someone wants to pass, in fact the law obligates you to move over. We are talking about golf carts on MMPs, and if they are capable of exceeding 20 mph they are considered a LSV, and the owner can be subject to a citation for an unregistered motor vehicle. I have no intention of modifying my cart so that it is ILLEGAL, so somebody is happier speeding down the MMP, nor am I under any obligation to pull over on a MMP when I am going 20 mph to let the other type of BOZO pass. If you can safely pass, go for it, I don't care. But I am under no legal obligation whatsoever to accommodate YOU. In your scenario, I would need to break the law myself in order to not "explicitly contribute".

Nor is the person going 12 MPH obligated to pull over. (or just move as far right as they can, or waive you on after a stop at an intersection)

I agree that you are within the law and within your rights. Sticking to that is contributing to a situation that may one day cause harm to you. I certainly hope that it does not.

Carts don't need to be modified to go over 20 MPH. My 2 (from Golf Cars of the Villages) go 23 and 24 MPH without any modification.

I personally, would just slow down to your 20 MPH, but if someone came up on me while I was going my full speed and was going faster and clearly wanted to pass, I would make it as easy as I could to allow them to pass and then they and their chosen appetite for risk is away from me.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by VAtoFLA

Nor is the person going 12 MPH obligated to pull over. (or just move as far right as they can, or waive you on after a stop at an intersection)

I agree that you are within the law and within your rights. Sticking to that is contributing to a situation that may one day cause harm to you. I certainly hope that it does not.

Carts don't need to be modified to go over 20 MPH. My 2 (from Golf Cars of the Villages) go 23 and 24 MPH without any modification.

I personally, would just slow down to your 20 MPH, but if someone came up on me while I was going my full speed and was going faster and clearly wanted to pass, I would make it as easy as I could to allow them to pass and then they and their chosen appetite for risk is away from me.

I don’t see how you can equate a cart going 20 with one going 12, 40% below the speed limit. That’s like equating a car going 70 on an interstate with one going 42. Clearly there is a huge difference in the “hazard” value

[Bay Kid]

I always wave the carter's in a hurry on by. I'm trying to enjoy the ride.

[VAtoFLA]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I don’t see how you can equate a cart going 20 with one going 12, 40% below the speed limit. That’s like equating a car going 70 on an interstate with one going 42. Clearly there is a huge difference in the “hazard” value

What I'm equating is that neither are doing anything illegal and both have someone behind them going faster and intending to get by either with or without the blessing of the slower vehicle.

You do you, but I allow faster traffic to pass me regardless of my speed and I do it for myself as much as for them.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by VAtoFLA

What I'm equating is that neither are doing anything illegal and both have someone behind them going faster and intending to get by either with or without the blessing of the slower vehicle.

You do you, but I allow faster traffic to pass me regardless of my speed and I do it for myself as much as for them.

If you read my first post, I stated I let them go by as well. But there are times that is not practical, and I won't violate the law to accommodate them. They can just wait until it is safe to pass.

[VAtoFLA]

Then we're of one mind sir. Sorry I missed that piece.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

I always wave the carter's in a hurry on by. I'm trying to enjoy the ride.

WARNING!
Any time you wave, you are directing traffic and IF an accident should occur you can be held liable.
If you alter your driving other drivers have no idea what you are doing or why. For safety, maintain speed, direction, lane so the other driver can make their decision on static conditions and adjust accordingly.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

WARNING!
Any time you wave, you are directing traffic and IF an accident should occur you can be held liable.
If you alter your driving other drivers have no idea what you are doing or why. For safety, maintain speed, direction, lane so the other driver can make their decision on static conditions and adjust accordingly.

I agree with you. When you wave traffic around you, you are assuming a mantle of liability by essentially telling the person behind you "it's okay (safe) to go around me." That may or may not be the case, but either way I'll be damned if I'm gonna get stuck holding that bag of crap. The guy/lady behind me can make their own decision whether they can safely pass or not. If they're wrong, they get to hold that bottomless crapbag all by themselves without my help.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I don’t see how you can equate a cart going 20 with one going 12, 40% below the speed limit. That’s like equating a car going 70 on an interstate with one going 42. Clearly there is a huge difference in the “hazard” value

Note: On some interstates, there is a minimum legal speed limit of 45 mph. Most other roads only have a maximum speed limit, but no minimum.
In the boundaries of The Villages, only maximum speed limits are posted. Cars/carts can legally and safely travel at speeds below the posted maximum limit.

Neither cars nor carts are intended to be driven " pedal to the metal ". To do so causes excess wear and tear and wastes fuel.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Note: On some interstates, there is a minimum legal speed limit of 45 mph. Most other roads only have a maximum speed limit, but no minimum.
In the boundaries of The Villages, only maximum speed limits are posted. Cars/carts can legally and safely travel at speeds below the posted maximum limit.

Neither cars nor carts are intended to be driven " pedal to the metal ". To do so causes excess wear and tear and wastes fuel.

Well actually..... Since the cart has a governor limiting the speed, it can be driven "pedal to the metal" without causing excessive wear and tear.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Note: On some interstates, there is a minimum legal speed limit of 45 mph. Most other roads only have a maximum speed limit, but no minimum.
In the boundaries of The Villages, only maximum speed limits are posted. Cars/carts can legally and safely travel at speeds below the posted maximum limit.

Neither cars nor carts are intended to be driven " pedal to the metal ". To do so causes excess wear and tear and wastes fuel.

I like wasting fuel---in my internal combustion engine. It also increases my carbon footprint and supports a $trillion+ industry. I just wish they'd bring back flying A and Sinclair gas stations, but at least there are still places where I can "trust my car to the man that wears the star"

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Well actually..... Since the cart has a governor limiting the speed, it can be driven "pedal to the metal" without causing excessive wear and tear.

I'll take your word on that for your cart and for electric. All I know is my Yamaha can hold top speed (19.9) without having my foot on the floor. If I stomp on the gas pedal, I get more noise and vibration and exhaust fumes that smell of unburned fuel, but speed doesn't change.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

I'll take your word on that for your cart and for electric. All I know is my Yamaha can hold top speed (19.9) without having my foot on the floor. If I stomp on the gas pedal, I get more noise and vibration and exhaust fumes that smell of unburned fuel, but speed doesn't change.

Very little information to go on but possibly:

1. That's not the way it works. The governor on the gas engines controls throttle position so stomping on the pedal would make no difference.

2. You are referring to accelerating to gain speed, not running at speed. During acceleration the engine works harder and revs higher which could result in vibration and likely results in exhaust fumes.

3. Your cart is in need of repair. If stomping on the pedal while running at top speed results in noise, vibration, and fumes then it means it is not being limited by the governor, more fuel is being fed to the engine, the engine is trying to drive the cart faster, but for some reason the cart isn't accelerating. There could be many causes for this so you might want to speak with a mechanic.