[marvinh11791]

Hello you lucky people in the Villages. I'm up here on Long Island New York and we have had a brutal 1-3 weeks with frigid weather. I know Global 'Warming' may be a misleading term but as the weather maps show the gulf stream has dipped way south so even Florida is having a cold snap. So my question for anyone who understands weather patterns, am I correct in my understanding that the weather is changing? I considered Florida 10 years ago but I didn't think I could stand the summer heat. So now with these new weather patterns maybe I should re-consider Florida once again. Thank you. Marvin

[Topspinmo]

In now climate change, global warming is so yesterday…. and yes, the climate changes. Been well below normal down here, so you didn’t miss much.

[Taltarzac725]

I have been here in Florida since 1996. It is very rarely cold for long. The three days lately or a bit more is rare. Has not happened here since 2010.

I did live in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Colorado, Utah and Nevada so I do know cold weather. Arizona can have some rather cold nights as well.

[VAtoFLA]

Climate and weather are not the same thing Marvin. The current cold snap is weather. Overall FL is warming. Not at the alarmist rate, but by about 1 to 1.5 degrees over the last 20 years. All that being said, if you hated FL summer heat last year you likely will this year too with one caveat. You are likely changing as an individual at a higher rate than the climate. As we age, we tend to feel colder, so the heat may not seem so bad to you even if it's the same as previous years.

What you should do is maybe come down in the summer for a few weeks or a month. Rent a place and see it at its worst for you. Then you'll know from there if you should buy a place or maybe look to snowbird.

Good luck sir!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by VAtoFLA

Climate and weather are not the same thing Marvin. The current cold snap is weather. Overall FL is warming. Not at the alarmist rate, but by about 1 to 1.5 degrees over the last 20 years. All that being said, if you hated FL summer heat last year you likely will this year too with one caveat. .............

Good luck sir!

Um, no, it's not.

According to the Florida Climate Center, the average temp in Fl in 2025 was 72.3°
And in 1948, it was, you guessed it, 72.3°. So much for "global warming"

Temperature - Florida Climate Center

[fdpaq0580]

A few extreme days, hot or cold can skew the annual averages in a planetary region. That does not necessarily equate to global climate. It is a regional weather anomaly.

[Bay Kid]

We cannot control the weather, no matter how much money is passed around.

[vintageogauge]

Climate is cyclical and we learn to adapt.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Um, no, it's not.

According to the Florida Climate Center, the average temp in Fl in 2025 was 72.3°
And in 1948, it was, you guessed it, 72.3°. So much for "global warming"

Temperature - Florida Climate Center

Just a tad disingenuous, don't you think? Yes, cherry picking the highest point in the decades around 1948 and the lowest point in the last decade you get the same 72.3 degrees BUT the trend in 1928 was about 70 - 71 degrees while the trend in the last decade was 72.5 - 73.5 degrees.

There was a big increase around 2015 which supports a claim of a 1 to 1.5 increase in the last 20 years. However, the data shows a much more gradual increase in the 60 years prior to 2015. Overall it looks like temps increased by about 1 degree from 1948 to 2015 and then about 1.5 degrees from 2015 to today. (I'm sure someone will claim that the Florida Climate Center began "cooking the books" in 2015 in anticipation of this ToTV thread in 2025).

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

We cannot control the weather, no matter how much money is past around.

"Control". Not yet!
"Affect, influence, alter"? Most definitely.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Just a tad disingenuous, don't you think? Yes, the highest point in the decades around 1948 was 72.3 degrees and the lowest point in the last decade was 72.3 BUT the trend in 1928 was about 70 - 71 degrees while the trend in the last decade was 72.5 - 73.5 degrees.

There was a big increase around 2015 which supports a claim of a 1 to 1.5 increase in the last 20 years. However, the data shows a much more gradual increase in the 60 years prior to 2015. Overall it looks like temps increased by about 1 degree from 1948 to 2015 and then about 1.5 degrees from 2015 to today. (I'm sure someone will claim that the Florida Climate Center began "cooking the books" in 2015 in anticipation of this ToTV thread in 2025).

And since climate changes over thousands of years, what was the Florida temp in 1759? 1256? 458BC?? I can pretty much guarantee it was 10-15° warmer 65 million years ago. Using the last 100 years of data is a joke regardless of which point of view one takes.

[VAtoFLA]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Um, no, it's not.

According to the Florida Climate Center, the average temp in Fl in 2025 was 72.3°
And in 1948, it was, you guessed it, 72.3°. So much for "global warming"

Temperature - Florida Climate Center

Cherry pick much? You choose an outlier year on the higher end and compare it to an outlier year on the other side. Look at the entirety of your data set and it's clear temperatures are rising. Again, like I said earlier, not at an alarmist rate, but the shape of the graph, using your data set, is extremely clear.

[Arctic Fox]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Just a tad disingenuous, don't you think? Yes, the highest point in the decades around 1948 was 72.3 degrees and the lowest point in the last decade was 72.3 BUT the trend in 1928 was about 70 - 71 degrees while the trend in the last decade was 72.5 - 73.5 degree.

Yes, always suspicious when someone picks a seemingly random year to illustrate a point.

Why go with 1948 - 77 years ago? You nailed it - that was the hottest year back then.

And why use a specific year rather than looking at the trend over a decade or more? You nailed it again - because climate (longer term) is not the same as weather (short term).

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by VAtoFLA

Cherry pick much? You choose an outlier year on the higher end and compare it to an outlier year on the other side. Look at the entirety of your data set and it's clear temperatures are rising. Again, like I said earlier, not at an alarmist rate, but the shape of the graph, using your data set, is extremely clear.

How does this chart track with your Post No. 4? It looks like the temperature has increased by less than 0.5 degrees during the past 20 years, not 1 to 1.5 degrees.

[VAtoFLA]

This is a different data set. For my earlier post I asked Copilot who gave that stat. I'm happy to defer to the Florida Climate Center data.

Chart tracks to Florida Climate Center, not the AI summary used in Post 4.