[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Science? Surely not the Science taught at major universities (that you, presumably, studied at) around the world! The ones in cahoots with the U. S. Government and others around the world, supported by major scientific and government entities around the world? I thought you told us they were liars and crooks and couldn't be trusted. OMG! Who can we trust? 😬😲🥹

How many graduate paleoclimatology courses have you taken? My guess is that I have taken more. That's the science---the historical record of thousands of years and the extremely powerful forces of the sun, Earth's orbit and the changes in our axis---not your SUV emissions. What they are publishing and teaching now has way too much politics embedded within. If you are a professor of climatology at one of those major universities and apply for a grant to pursue your hypothesis that mankind has nothing to do with climate change, do you think you will get it? Do you think you'll get published??? Do you think you'll get tenure???? Disagreeing with the party line is tantamount to professional suicide.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

How many graduate paleoclimatology courses have you taken? My guess is that I have taken more. That's the science---the historical record of thousands of years and the extremely powerful forces of the sun, Earth's orbit and the changes in our axis---not your SUV emissions. What they are publishing and teaching now has way too much politics embedded within. If you are a professor of climatology at one of those major universities and apply for a grant to pursue your hypothesis that mankind has nothing to do with climate change, do you think you will get it? Do you think you'll get published??? Do you think you'll get tenure???? Disagreeing with the party line is tantamount to professional suicide.

Science and the global knowledge base has evolved and progressed since you took your last paleoclimatology course in 1927.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Science and the global knowledge base has evolved and progressed since you took your last paleoclimatology course in 1927.

1928. Get it RIGHT!!!!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Science and the global knowledge base has evolved and progressed since you took your last paleoclimatology course in 1927.

Even so think he is more knowledgable on Science that 99.9% of the people on here.

Rumor has it I am in the remaining 0.01%.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Disagreeing with the party line is tantamount to professional suicide.

That's what Dr Frankenstein said, too.

There is little doubt that you have had more "formal" education than I. Good for you. But that is not the only kind of education that can matter in life. Nearly 80 years of world travel, exposure to other cultures, climates, scientific and practical knowledge. Don't denigrate the knowledge or expertise of someone because they don't have "Dr" infront of their name. That would just exposing one's arrogance.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Even so think he is more knowledgable on Science that 99.9% of the people on here.

Rumor has it I am in the remaining 0.01%.

I missed that rumor. Thanks for bringing me up to date. 😉

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by marvinh11791

Hello you lucky people in the Villages. I'm up here on Long Island New York and we have had a brutal 1-3 weeks with frigid weather. I know Global 'Warming' may be a misleading term but as the weather maps show the gulf stream has dipped way south so even Florida is having a cold snap. So my question for anyone who understands weather patterns, am I correct in my understanding that the weather is changing? I considered Florida 10 years ago but I didn't think I could stand the summer heat. So now with these new weather patterns maybe I should re-consider Florida once again. Thank you. Marvin

Heat is still in Florida and very dry. Ponds are now at levels that are seen at end of the dry season(nov-may) This winter has not been this cold since 2010. Like you said it is a weather pattern. In meantime western US has had record warmth and low snow levels

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Um, no, it's not.

According to the Florida Climate Center, the average temp in Fl in 2025 was 72.3°
And in 1948, it was, you guessed it, 72.3°. So much for "global warming"

Temperature - Florida Climate Center

Weather is still weather and since when is "global warming" based upon weather in Florida.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by kkingston57

Weather is still weather and since when is "global warming" based upon weather in Florida.

Probably ever since the climate alarmists on TOTV started using Florida as a microcosm of the rest of the world

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Probably ever since the climate alarmists on TOTV started using Florida as a microcosm of the rest of the world

There are no climate alarmists on TOTV. Just a few individuals that take serriously the mountains of evidence, gathered by the finest scientists and experts from around the world, that supports global warming/climate change. Caring folks who seriously and think we could be better stewards of the one and only planet that we can survive on.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

There are no climate alarmists on TOTV. Just a few individuals that take serriously the mountains of evidence, gathered by the finest scientists and experts from around the world, that supports global warming/climate change. Caring folks who seriously and think we could be better stewards of the one and only planet that we can survive on.

Yeah, right. Mountains of evidence and "finest scientists", all on the payroll of government or academia, fueled by the media. How about what a senate committee found:

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Yeah, right. Mountains of evidence and "finest scientists", all on the payroll of government or academia, fueled by the media. How about what a senate committee found:

So your politician's opinion is better than the other politician's opinion?

From wikipedia: On the floor of the U.S. Senate, Republican Senator Jim Inhofe displayed a snowball—on 26 February 2015, in winter—as evidence the globe was not warming, in a year that was found to be Earth's warmest on record at the time.

About like stating there is no threat from hurricanes since we had none strike Florida this year.

Perhaps we should have politicians stick to what they do best (though they do it poorly) and let scientists report on science. And yes, if you throw enough spaghetti at the wall eventually you may find a piece that sticks but it is dishonest to ignore all the spaghetti laying on the floor.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

So your politician's opinion is better than the other politician's opinion?

From wikipedia: On the floor of the U.S. Senate, Republican Senator Jim Inhofe displayed a snowball—on 26 February 2015, in winter—as evidence the globe was not warming, in a year that was found to be Earth's warmest on record at the time.

About like stating there is no threat from hurricanes since we had none strike Florida this year.

Perhaps we should have politicians stick to what they do best (though they do it poorly) and let scientists report on science. And yes, if you throw enough spaghetti at the wall eventually you may find a piece that sticks but it is dishonest to ignore all the spaghetti laying on the floor.

It was NOT a "politician's opinion"-----IT WAS THE FINDINGS OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS. If you are looking for something that was a politician's opinion, may I refer you to Al Gore.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

So your politician's opinion is better than the other politician's opinion?

From wikipedia: On the floor of the U.S. Senate, Republican Senator Jim Inhofe displayed a snowball—on 26 February 2015, in winter—as evidence the globe was not warming, in a year that was found to be Earth's warmest on record at the time.

About like stating there is no threat from hurricanes since we had none strike Florida this year.

Perhaps we should have politicians stick to what they do best (though they do it poorly) and let scientists report on science. And yes, if you throw enough spaghetti at the wall eventually you may find a piece that sticks but it is dishonest to ignore all the spaghetti laying on the floor.

"Perhaps we should have politicians stick to what they do best (though they do it poorly) and let scientists report on science."

I agree with this part of your post, but do you have any scientific research that was NOT funded in any way by the U.S. Government?

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Yeah, right. Mountains of evidence and "finest scientists", all on the payroll of government or academia, fueled by the media. How about what a senate committee found:

That's kind of funny. We do need to stay away from politics.

I have also found academics disagree a great deal especially about areas where science has not been settled. Not much of a point to write an article or whatever on a topic that has already been deemed solved by the authorities.