[Challenger]

Originally Posted by festusrules

I live in Buttonwood and can think of very few paths that do not have curbing as the right hand boundary. Where exactly are they going to add stripes?

I don't know that there are any MMPs in Buttonwood

[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

It's called visibility...a pretty basic requirement of safe driving.

I'm not even in favor of blanket covering all of TV MMP's with striping, but the constant equating of driver ability with visibility issues is amazing to me.

I often wonder when reading these post if the folks who are so strongly against striping travel the MMPs when is dark? Do they have early morning tee times? Do they go to the squares in the evening? Spend an evening at friends house playing cards? Go out to dinner after 6:00 pm? Attending a 6:00 pm church service will have one driving in the dark. Why are they so against making the community safer for all?

[bagboy]

Originally Posted by Challenger

I don't know that there are any MMPs in Buttonwood

There is one mile of MMP in district 8 along Buena Vista Blvd. I am not sure exactly where that one mile starts and finishes.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

I often wonder when reading these post if the folks who are so strongly against striping travel the MMPs when is dark? Do they have early morning tee times? Do they go to the squares in the evening? Spend an evening at friends house playing cards? Go out to dinner after 6:00 pm? Attending a 6:00 pm church service will have one driving in the dark. Why are they so against making the community safer for all?

They are not against making the community safer for ALL.
Take all the examples given above and there still would be significantly less than half of all cart traffic on the road after dark.
And of the half that do travel after dark there is a small percentage that will have trouble seeing no matter what is done to the MMP.
Then there are the drivers, day or night, that just do not drive safely. They will be unaffected by striping or anything else.

Educating and hopefully changing the driving habits of a certain percentage of cart drivers will do more to affect the saftey of the community than striping the MMP.....and save hundreds of thousands of $$$$.

I will venture a guess that 90+% of all cart accidents are during the daytime hours......and the majority due to unsafe driving by somebody!

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

I often wonder when reading these post if the folks who are so strongly against striping travel the MMPs when is dark? Do they have early morning tee times? Do they go to the squares in the evening? Spend an evening at friends house playing cards? Go out to dinner after 6:00 pm? Attending a 6:00 pm church service will have one driving in the dark. Why are they so against making the community safer for all?

My travels on MMP's in my cart is about 60% day/40% night. SIDE STRIPING is not going to make riding the paths any safer; if the three supervisors in CDD 8 have to foolishly spend money we (I live in CDD 8) pay to the district for something, spend the money on CENTER STRIPING; a lot more serious accident is going to occur if a cart crosses over center and crashes into another cart vs. running off the side and crashing into a bush. Try this while driving - PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR DRIVING, PAY ATTENTION TO ALL OTHER DRIVERS AND DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE. Also, the LED headlights for carts give plenty of light to see by at night; if your cart does not have them, spend a little money for the upgrade and you'll see a whole lot better all around during low light conditions

[TheVillageChicken]

In the early days of the horseless carriage, laws were enacted to require a vehicle to be preceded in hours of darkness by a pedestrian carrying a lantern. I think it is time to return to the good old days and I am going to ask the wife to perform this service for me. If I present it to her as a way to lose some weight and save the district some money, I think that might seal the deal. I just hope she can run over 20 MPH.

[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

My travels on MMP's in my cart is about 60% day/40% night. SIDE STRIPING is not going to make riding the paths any safer; if the three supervisors in CDD 8 have to foolishly spend money we (I live in CDD 8) pay to the district for something, spend the money on CENTER STRIPING; a lot more serious accident is going to occur if a cart crosses over center and crashes into another cart vs. running off the side and crashing into a bush. Try this while driving - PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR DRIVING, PAY ATTENTION TO ALL OTHER DRIVERS AND DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE. Also, the LED headlights for carts give plenty of light to see by at night; if your cart does not have them, spend a little money for the upgrade and you'll see a whole lot better all around during low light conditions

In another post I made the offer to meet anyone at 6:15 in the morning and drive down the MMP on El Cameo Drive and then down Enrique Drive where there is a white stripe marking the cart lane. Yes I know Enrique is a street. The point is you will be able to see for yourself the improved visablilty of the cart lane and where you are going. Of course I am driving behind you so my lights are shining in your mirrors. So far no takers.....

[looneycat]

Originally Posted by billethkid

They are not against making the community safer for ALL.
Take all the examples given above and there still would be significantly less than half of all cart traffic on the road after dark.
And of the half that do travel after dark there is a small percentage that will have trouble seeing no matter what is done to the MMP.

what are you talking about? how did you decide it will be a small percent, if everyone would stop the BS they too would admit to visibility problems at night.
the vast majority of those who travel the cart paths in the dark, something the so-called engineer did NOT do, complain about visibilty. I welcome striping as it will make it safer. You want to talk small numbers....isn't it better to save even 1 accident if you can??

[looneycat]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

My travels on MMP's in my cart is about 60% day/40% night. SIDE STRIPING is not going to make riding the paths any safer; if the three supervisors in CDD 8 have to foolishly spend money we (I live in CDD 8) pay to the district for something, spend the money on CENTER STRIPING; a lot more serious accident is going to occur if a cart crosses over center and crashes into another cart vs. running off the side and crashing into a bush. Try this while driving - PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR DRIVING, PAY ATTENTION TO ALL OTHER DRIVERS AND DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE. Also, the LED headlights for carts give plenty of light to see by at night; if your cart does not have them, spend a little money for the upgrade and you'll see a whole lot better all around during low light conditions

quite true, center striping would be better. I have found, however, that most LED headlights are improperly aimed (yes they are adjustable) and as a result do more to blind oncoming drivers than standard headlights.

[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken

In the early days of the horseless carriage, laws were enacted to require a vehicle to be preceded in hours of darkness by a pedestrian carrying a lantern. I think it is time to return to the good old days and I am going to ask the wife to perform this service for me. If I present it to her as a way to lose some weight and save the district some money, I think that might seal the deal. I just hope she can run over 20 MPH.

You know you shouldn't be exceeding 20 mph!!!

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

My travels on MMP's in my cart is about 60% day/40% night. SIDE STRIPING is not going to make riding the paths any safer; if the three supervisors in CDD 8 have to foolishly spend money we (I live in CDD 8) pay to the district for something, spend the money on CENTER STRIPING; a lot more serious accident is going to occur if a cart crosses over center and crashes into another cart vs. running off the side and crashing into a bush. Try this while driving - PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR DRIVING, PAY ATTENTION TO ALL OTHER DRIVERS AND DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE. Also, the LED headlights for carts give plenty of light to see by at night; if your cart does not have them, spend a little money for the upgrade and you'll see a whole lot better all around during low light conditions

You can count me in on two out of three.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by looneycat

quite true, center striping would be better. I have found, however, that most LED headlights are improperly aimed (yes they are adjustable) and as a result do more to blind oncoming drivers than standard headlights.

I've positioned my led lights upward and to the left.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by outlaw

I've positioned my led lights upward and to the left.

Very generous, lighting the MMP for the carts in the other lane...... lol

[looneycat]

Originally Posted by outlaw

I've positioned my led lights upward and to the left.

[looneycat]

Originally Posted by festusrules

I live in Buttonwood and can think of very few paths that do not have curbing as the right hand boundary. Where exactly are they going to add stripes?

that's good, continue to only use your cart in buttonwood and don't worry about this thread.