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Old 09-07-2015, 11:46 PM
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Seems to me that since it has been determined that white lines on the mmp would not be beneficial from the safety standpoint that perhaps the powers that be should save the expense of placing striping the roadways also.
That simply does not compute.
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Old 09-08-2015, 06:34 AM
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No-one should be driving without golf cart insurance.
Hopefully all residents currently insure their golf carts.
I would estimate that no more than 10% of carts are insured.
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Old 09-08-2015, 06:38 AM
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That simply does not compute.
He/she is arguing that if striping won't help because it won't change people's bad behavior, then let's just remove striping from all streets, since stripes can't fix bad, irresponsible behavior. Does it compute now?
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Old 09-08-2015, 06:52 AM
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I have followed this story from the beginning with much interest. We have experienced first hand how scary it can be driving carts at night, particularly in the rain, and at any time when an oncoming cart's lights blind you. Driving on the neighborhood streets with their streetlights and dedicated lanes is not a problem, but the multimodal paths on Buena Vista can be treacherous. Considering that we are not even very old, I can imagine it must be even more difficult for those that are. The POA has had several good articles about this issue, with the actual costs per household, unlike the crap you read in the Sun (and from the Villages-hired engineers). I don't remember the exact numbers but it was like $10 per household. For me, this is a no-brainier if it saves even one person from injury. I have driven on District 4's striped paths at night and can tell you, it is so much safer! Also, the POA reported that more than 70% of the folks who responded to the survey were in favor of some kind of striping, although I doubt everyone was in favor of the same kind.
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:12 AM
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I am also in district 8 and I am not in favor of striping.

It seems that there are many who are of the opinion that there is no downside to striping, so why not give it a try. It has been identified that side striping will increase risk to pedestrians and bike riders. Pedestrian vs golf car = pedestrian injury. This to me trumps any concern of a golf car driving off the path into the grass.

Inconsistent paths would not be good. Some with center marking. Some with side striping. Some with none. A confused system of our own doing.

For these two reasons, I believe that a liability would be created that we don't want.

The bikers and pedestrians were against the middle striping and reflectors. I haven't heard anything against side striping. And the striping isn't really needed during the day, but at night, it would sure help! When on the many dark stretches, it is scary when there is an oncoming cart. The lights totally blind you. And add rain to that mix......not safe.
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:50 AM
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Speaking of striping, what is it about these people who stop their cart on the MMP to visit with someone. Would they do this in their car on BV or Morse?
And why do some walkers insist that they own the whole MMP side they are walking on? Some of these id!ots walk out almost in the middle of the MMP, just daring you to hit them!
And why do some bicyclists think they own the whole side of the MMP they are riding on? Some will coast along at 5 mph taking up half the total MMP width. Do they have a death wish?
I think I'm somewhat outraged. Or at least miffed.
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:54 AM
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I would estimate that no more than 10% of carts are insured.
Anyone have any real stats on this? 10% seems so low? I can't believe anyone would drive a cart WITHOUT insurance!
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:58 AM
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Anyone have any real stats on this? 10% seems so low? I can't believe anyone would drive a cart WITHOUT insurance!
I do. Most motorcyclists also ride without insurance. Although, I do have motorcycle insurance. Mainly for theft and damage to the bike. I know a few people who don't carry home insurance, either. The insurance propaganda machine over many decades has been very effective. Termite policy, appliance policy, extended auto warranty....
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:59 AM
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Ok, thanks, Outlaw...
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Old 09-11-2015, 03:26 PM
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I live in District 10 and hope that we get the side stripping. If it saves 1 life, it is well worth the cost.
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Old 09-11-2015, 04:11 PM
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I live in District 10 and hope that we get the side stripping. If it saves 1 life, it is well worth the cost.
I think side stripping is a good idea, and since many of the residents in CDD 10 are younger than the rest of us I am sure they will do a good job of it. Seeing a handsome well built man stripping on the side of the path is surely very pleasant. The problem is my definition of "handsome well built" may not be the same as the next cart coming along. And what happens as they age? Seeing my own wrinkles is bad enough. Do I need to see others' as they are stripping on the edge? And let's be frank: some side strippers may be too wide to safely allow room for me to pass.
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Old 09-11-2015, 06:10 PM
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I think side stripping is a good idea, and since many of the residents in CDD 10 are younger than the rest of us I am sure they will do a good job of it. Seeing a handsome well built man stripping on the side of the path is surely very pleasant. The problem is my definition of "handsome well built" may not be the same as the next cart coming along. And what happens as they age? Seeing my own wrinkles is bad enough. Do I need to see others' as they are stripping on the edge? And let's be frank: some side strippers may be too wide to safely allow room for me to pass.
Finally a worthy change of pace for the already dead horse!
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Old 09-11-2015, 06:17 PM
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Well more fuel has been added to the fire......The unnamed online news source has an article where the district engineer has written a letter to the "rouge" districts. I am going to run out of popcorn watching this unfold.......
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Anyone have any real stats on this? 10% seems so low? I can't believe anyone would drive a cart WITHOUT insurance!
Which is why I have uninsured motorist insurance on my cart.
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I live in District 10 and hope that we get the side stripping. If it saves 1 life, it is well worth the cost.
I live in District 10 and hope we don't.
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