[mtlee024]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

There is a 2 lane wide “golf cart driveway” (can’t think of a better way to describe it) that goes from the back of the Mallory CC parking lot down to Morse MMP which is on a hill overlooking the golf course and about 50 yards away from the course that leads to the driveway entrance to the golf course. This driveway bypasses the narrow blind curve by the tunnel that goes around Mallory CC. Wife and I have walked that “golf cart driveway” every morning for the last 4+ years and we take that path (bypass) to avoid the hill and blind curve by the Tunnel because one time I got clipped by a cart flying around the single lane blind curve while walking. Today a guy in the “booth” near this area (different one than who is usually there who we always say hello to) approached us like he was the King of Golf and told us we can’t walk there because it is “golf course property.” There is no signage that states “no pedestrians” or even that it is golf course property.

While I DO NOT DISPUTE WHETHER IT IS GOLF COURSE PROPERTY or not I do wonder if there is any specific RULE that says pedestrians are not permitted in that cart driveway which is not directly connected to the course in any way? THIS IS NOT ON OR NEAR the course or golf course path itself but up on a hill overlooking the course probably 50 yards down the hill from the course.

Who would I contact to discuss this if I want to question it or suggest they put a "no pedestrians" sign up if it is the case. If you are not familiar with this specific area you would have to see it to understand it's location relative to the course itself (it's nowhere near it).

Edit to add: If they decided to "enforce" this alleged rule what can they do since there are ZERO signs posted stating "no pedestrians" ? Unless it is properly marked what can they do?

The golf course property is Private Property for use of golfers who have paid to use the course. You wouldn't
want people waling through your yard all the time. It is a liability issue.

[Waltdisney4life]

So you think you should be able to walk wherever you want interesting and badmouth the starter for informing you of private property is the bad guy interesting again so everybody else is wrong and you were right!!!

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Waltdisney4life

So you think you should be able to walk wherever you want interesting and badmouth the starter for informing you of private property is the bad guy interesting again so everybody else is wrong and you were right!!!

LMAO, Everyone here has reading comprehension problems. It was Mallory parking lot Gazebo Guy not golf course Starter Guy.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

Nope. Not even close. No waythat can be considered a GOLF COURSE. Maybe an access "road/trail/driveway or whatever" but thanks for the suggestion. If this topic annoys you there is always the dog pee topic.

Ed, while I generally agree with you on many topics, we differ here.

You are being very strict in your definition of golf COURSE, to be just the grass golfing surface, it appears.

FWIW, the vehicle code from my prior state defines the roadway as the entire width of the driving surface, from the center of the road (double yellows) past the shoulder, over the curb, across the sidewalk, across any median grass and ALLLLL the way to the absolute furthest edge of the right-of-way. ALL of that is within the definition of "Roadway," not just the driving surface lanes.

The beach is not just the exact point where the ocean meets the sand and air. It is generally considered to include the water, the sand, the bike path, the concession stand, the pathways, the parking lot, etc.

A country club is not just the area under roof, it is reasonably believed to include the entire property including all facilities, parking areas, driveways, easements, etc.

The examples, while not directly germane, show it is not unreasonable to assume that ALLL areas within the golf course perimeter, are indeed, "Golf course."

Additionally, FWIW, trespass is generally a law consisting of two elements: 1) Being in a place where you have no right to be, and; 2) Being asked/told/directed/advised to leave and refusing to do so. While no cop would ever arrest for trespass unless you refused repeated and escalated directives to remove yourself, an entity could have you "arrested" (detained and cited and then released upon that written promise to appear) as a private person's arrest. You have clearly violated Element 1, and admitted to Element 2. Yes, it would likely be found that you are henceforth actually trespassing.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but as an objective observer, I think yours has lost.

[drcar]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

LMAO, Everone here has reading comprehension problems. It was Gazebo Guy not Starter Guy.

#1 you stated you won't reply anymore
#2 the "Gazebo Guy" as you call him, is a golf employee, he is the Bag Drop Attendant
#3 The Gazebo is the bag drop station
#4 It is on Golf Course property
#5 it is located right next to the golf shop where the managers work
#6 As stated many time all you needed to is go in the shop and asked a simple question
#7 oh well, you are the replying anymore

[Chi-Town]

Give it up Ed
Don't lose your cred
The posts have all been read
Best to call the thread
Dead

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by paulajr

There is so much….how shall I put it..lack of knowledge…in this post I don’t know where to begin.
“Man in gazebo” is a trained golf employee, working “bag drop”. He is also trained for all other positions, so he KNOWS the rules.
Golf balls are not all white.
You are trespassing.
Golf PRO is also the manager of each Country Club.
Stop embarrassing yourself with uneducated posts, educate yourself..and stop trespassing.





NO! WHY? you asked .......... . I'll tell you. BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA WHAT OR WHO "THE PRO AT MALLORY IS" or what he does or looks like or where he lives as I don't play golf. The only "pros" I am aware of are those who get paid for playing golf like you see on television. Does the "pro" actually make The Villages rules that apply to all the Villages golf properties or just regurgitate what they "should be or probably are" like most here are doing because it says somewhere that only golfers who read them are aware of that says you can't walk on a GOLF COURSE.

For all I know the "PRO" was the guy who drives around in the golf cart with the water barrel on the back or sits in the hut listening to the radio which is why I wrote in the OP asking if someone would tell me who to contact. Someone ONE PERSON actually did answer my question which I appreciate and that is what I plan to do. So everyone feel free to continue this but since I actually did have a person kind enough to give me actual name(s) I will pursue it from there.

And just to end this as there is no need for any more replies I will say the actual MMP AKA GOLF CART PATH blind curve around Mallory is dangerous to walkers, runners and bicyclists and personally for me the hill going up the MMP heading south and north causes me bad pain in my knee & hip which is why EVERY DAY for the last almost 5 years I have avoided it by cutting it out using the "path/driveway/street/road/trail/cement/yellow brick road or whatever" that goes between the CC building and the golf course. After 5 years all of a sudden it's different per one guy. We have had a friendly relationship with every other guy in that hut for the last 5 years with NEVER an issue. Maybe this guy really was "The King of The Villages Golf." Avoiding that hill is one of the same reasons I bypass the hill into the tunnel at Stillwater and cross Morse traffic.

@MODERATOR ... feel free to close this thread.

[/QUOTE]
& typically (as you said) Golf Professionals manage the golf course and environs.

Professional Golfers are the dudes playing on TV, shooting 65.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

LMAO, Everyone here has reading comprehension problems. It was Mallory parking lot Gazebo Guy not golf course Starter Guy.

I don't think many folks on this thread have "comprehension problems" ... I the OP has problems, that extend far beyond reading or writing.

[dewilson58]

Is this the same Ed that has problems with POTUS and with women at pools??

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Is this the same Ed that has problems with POTUS and with women at pools??

You "insinuations" are both false and malicious. Reported

[njbchbum]

Looks like ya can take EdFNJ out of Jersey butcha can't take the Jersey outta EdFNJ! lol

[EdFNJ]

Yup. Keep out. Don't go here, Private property. No walking but WELCOME, and come in here this way for fun and golf stuff! And NO, it doesn't say "golfers only", or "you can't walk to get there." Sorry folks, come up with all the excuses, lame and otherwise, or saying what their "INTENTIONS" are that you want but there is NOTHING that says "keep out private property." I also just found out (my wife just told me) one day when she walked by herself she was verbally accosted by some lady who followed her in her golf cart from the bottom of the trail all the way through the parking lot yelling at her so she started running and was followed to the exit gate.

[drcar]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

Yup. Keep out. Don't go here, Private property. No walking but WELCOME, and come in here this way for fun and golf stuff! And NO, it doesn't say "golfers only", or "you can't walk to get there." Sorry folks, come up with all the excuses, lame and otherwise, or saying what their "INTENTIONS" are that you want but there is NOTHING that says "keep out private property." I also just found out (my wife just told me) one day when she walked by herself she was verbally accosted by some lady who followed her in her golf cart from the bottom of the trail all the way through the parking lot yelling at her so she started running and was followed to the exit gate.

LOL, you are still replying

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by drcar

LOL, you are still replying

You don't approve, use the BLOCK LIST and/or don't read further but thank you for your helpful reminder.

[drcar]

And you still haven't stated you have told your concerns to the management at Mallory. I told you before his name and title, but you didn't like that he his the golf pro, but he also is the facility manager. Until you address your concerns to management about staff and your rights to walk thru that area he have no case here. Therefore you are chasing your tail and you hold no credence.