Golf Cart "driveway" behind Mallory CC to Morse MMP

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I don't golf, but I do like to walk. If ANYONE informed me that I was walking somewhere that I shouldn't be walking, I would thank them for letting me know and find somewhere else to walk (regardless if I had been walking in that area for years and no one told me sooner). There are plenty of beautiful places to walk around here.
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I repeat, seriously???????

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That's how I interpret it...

Nothing about the correct nature of the posts...
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Tell him that you and your wife are the King and Queen of the multi-modal paths and that he is trespassing on your property and that you have him outranked.
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Good grief OP....I don't golf neither but if someone told me that I didn't belong in a place I wouldn't post on social media to complain, but would say "thank you" and have it further clarified by someone, such as the manager. Did the person who came out have a lime-green shirt on with kaiki pants on? He most likely was an golf course employee there so would know. I would suspect that path was an access between to get to the other course and not for pedestrians. Your argument could extend to folks who say "I walk on the path once the course closes because I like the views" . Still it's not allowed!!
Apparently you just like to argue!!!
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Good grief OP..........Apparently you just like to argue!!!

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The guy in the "booth" (starter's shack) who acted like the "King of Golf" was 100% right and you were 100% wrong for even being there. That "golf cart driveway" is not part of the MMP, it a golf cart path ONLY, and is entirely contained on the property of the country club golf course. It is most certainly connected to the golf course, and not only is it "near the course, it runs between the practice green and the 9th green of Caroline. Any use by someone other than a golfer who has purchased a greens fee for that day is trespassing. It does not require a "no pedestrian" sign, the fact that golf courses paths are for golf carts driven by those playing is available on multiple sites on-line. It is NOT an "alleged" rule---it is THE RULE, and they can, if they so desire, legally enforce it even without a "sign". And what can they do? They can have the sheriff arrest you. (Not that they ever would, but they could). I don't think the defense of "I didn't know it was private property and that I couldn't walk there" would ever hold up in court.
Without a sign specifying “no pedestrians,” nothing can be done to stop someone from walking through. You’re always headed to the clubhouse, or bar/restaurant. Let them call the Sheriff.
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As a former green shirt wearer, I can say there is something to give on both sides? (NOTE: I almost always agree with Doc, but I digress.) There are usually small(18"?) stone posts that read "Golf Course Traffic Only", at the entrance to any of the golf course(i.e. cement) paths.
I/we too, ask pedestrians(dog walkers) and/or bicyclists not to go onto golf course property(both Champ and Exec). However, that path he's referring to leads to the Club House and Restaurant. I don't know that there is anything wrong with a couple having a drink or dinner, who might be heading up there, or departing for home, to use it? What I find odd is that Starter was able to reach you? His shack is a bit out of the way from that path? Are we sure you didn't roam toward his shack more? As for the blind curves, that's pretty much the same for any bend that goes into/out of residential neighborhoods?! It's always a risk.
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Without a sign specifying “no pedestrians,” nothing can be done to stop someone from walking through. You’re always headed to the clubhouse, or bar/restaurant. Let them call the Sheriff.
But alas, there IS something they could do. They could watch and see if you go to the restaurant or bar, or are just on a walk. Then they could call the sheriff. Why are some people hot to defend an action that is clearly wrong?
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There is so much….how shall I put it..lack of knowledge…in this post I don’t know where to begin.
“Man in gazebo” is a trained golf employee, working “bag drop”. He is also trained for all other positions, so he KNOWS the rules.
Golf balls are not all white.
You are trespassing.
Golf PRO is also the manager of each Country Club.
Stop embarrassing yourself with uneducated posts, educate yourself..and stop trespassing.


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Never spoke with any "starter" person. The guy who stopped us walked out of the little gazebo building in the Mallory parking lot. Starter is nowhere near the "path/driveway/concrete road", probably 100 feet down the section off the "path/driveway/concrete road" where carts line up. Maybe we are taking about 2 different things or places all this time? We have already ALMOST been hit with a ball walking on the MMP. It bounced 2 feet in front of us. We retrieved it for the golfing guy looking for it. He had orange balls. Thought they were supposed to be white. So walking on the "path/driveway/concrete road" is probably safer.

NO! WHY? you asked .......... . I'll tell you. BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA WHAT OR WHO "THE PRO AT MALLORY IS" or what he does or looks like or where he lives as I don't play golf. The only "pros" I am aware of are those who get paid for playing golf like you see on television. Does the "pro" actually make The Villages rules that apply to all the Villages golf properties or just regurgitate what they "should be or probably are" like most here are doing because it says somewhere that only golfers who read them are aware of that says you can't walk on a GOLF COURSE.

For all I know the "PRO" was the guy who drives around in the golf cart with the water barrel on the back or sits in the hut listening to the radio which is why I wrote in the OP asking if someone would tell me who to contact. Someone ONE PERSON actually did answer my question which I appreciate and that is what I plan to do. So everyone feel free to continue this but since I actually did have a person kind enough to give me actual name(s) I will pursue it from there.

And just to end this as there is no need for any more replies I will say the actual MMP AKA GOLF CART PATH blind curve around Mallory is dangerous to walkers, runners and bicyclists and personally for me the hill going up the MMP heading south and north causes me bad pain in my knee & hip which is why EVERY DAY for the last almost 5 years I have avoided it by cutting it out using the "path/driveway/street/road/trail/cement/yellow brick road or whatever" that goes between the CC building and the golf course. After 5 years all of a sudden it's different per one guy. We have had a friendly relationship with every other guy in that hut for the last 5 years with NEVER an issue. Maybe this guy really was "The King of The Villages Golf." Avoiding that hill is one of the same reasons I bypass the hill into the tunnel at Stillwater and cross Morse traffic.

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But alas, there IS something they could do. They could watch and see if you go to the restaurant or bar, or are just on a walk. Then they could call the sheriff. Why are some people hot to defend an action that is clearly wrong?
“Could” and “would” are vastly different responses. It “clearly” is not wrong to walk through, but may not be all that safe on that particular path, which I know well.

It also is perfectly fine to grab a putter and practice on the “practice” greens without issue.

You’re using a “country club” mentality on courses that are pretty much glorified public golf course.
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But alas, there IS something they could do. They could watch and see if you go to the restaurant or bar, or are just on a walk. Then they could call the sheriff. Why are some people hot to defend an action that is clearly wrong?
Probably the same reason some would defend driving 40mph on Buena Vista even though it is clearly wrong.

The OP is in the wrong (though he has made it clear that he won't accept that) but is walking on that golf cart path really worth calling the sheriff?
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The Villages enforce its golf course trespassing rules to mitigate liability. If your are trespassing and injured by a golf cart driver our hit by an errant golf ball, you may have an injury claim. Unless they enforce their no trespassing rules. Just accept that you are incorrect and move on.
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE POST A LINK TO THESE "RULES" ??? They don't seem to exist in writing. I believe that when I see it in writing or on a posted sign THEN it is time to "move on." Everything else is just assumptions and quoting of "local rules."
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No, as I have no idea who or what or where they are and did ASK that question in my OP, who to contact. As I mention, we are not golfers.
Start with the Mallory hill Pro, Brady Godfrey, very nice person, call him or stop in. He can answer your questions or will refer you to whom to see.
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WILL SOMEONE PLEASE POST A LINK TO THESE "RULES" ??? They don't seem to exist in writing. I believe that when I see it in writing or on a posted sign THEN it is time to "move on." Everything else is just assumptions and quoting of "local rules."
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However, that path he's referring to leads to the Club House and Restaurant. I don't know that there is anything wrong with a couple having a drink or dinner, who might be heading up there, or departing for home, to use it? What I find odd is that Starter was able to reach you? His shack is a bit out of the way from that path? Are we sure you didn't roam toward his shack more? As for the blind curves, that's pretty much the same for any bend that goes into/out of residential neighborhoods?! It's always a risk.
I wasn't going to reply anymore but you hit the proverbial nail on the head. THANK YOU! Obviously, "liability" isn't the issue. IN FACT the sign at the entrance on the MMP to that "path/street/driveway/cement path or whatever" specifically tells you to use that entrance to go to the COUNTRY CLUB AND THE PRO SHOP which also has a restroom. As stated before, IT WAS THE GAZEBO GUY IN THE PARKING LOT. Never went within 100 yards of the "starter shack". I would never do that since it is right ON THE GOLF COURSE! Guess they have to remove that sign from the MMP that tells you to use THAT entrance as well and not let anyone go to the CC or shop like a pro if they don't want anyone to use that "path/sidewalk/trail or cement driveway." It also doesn't say you have to DRIVE to the Country Club or the Pro shop using that entrance. LOL, maybe it's worth having the Gazebo Guy call the cops on me. Then maybe I could own part of the golf course. I wonder if "DAN" also does false arrests cases. sorry Doc, I meant
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