[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Mosells

The Villages enforce its golf course trespassing rules to mitigate liability. If your are trespassing and injured by a golf cart driver our hit by an errant golf ball, you may have an injury claim. Unless they enforce their no trespassing rules. Just accept that you are incorrect and move on.

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE POST A LINK TO THESE "RULES" ??? They don't seem to exist in writing. I believe that when I see it in writing or on a posted sign THEN it is time to "move on." Everything else is just assumptions and quoting of "local rules."

[drcar]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

No, as I have no idea who or what or where they are and did ASK that question in my OP, who to contact. As I mention, we are not golfers.

Start with the Mallory hill Pro, Brady Godfrey, very nice person, call him or stop in. He can answer your questions or will refer you to whom to see.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE POST A LINK TO THESE "RULES" ??? They don't seem to exist in writing. I believe that when I see it in writing or on a posted sign THEN it is time to "move on." Everything else is just assumptions and quoting of "local rules."

From Golf in the Villages

Safety on the Course
• Golf courses are restricted to golfing traffic only.
• Please refrain from riding, biking, fishing, walking or
engaging in other recreational activities on the courses.
• Pets are not permitted on golf courses or practice facilities
at any time.
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When you step off the MM into Mallary parking lot you are on golf course property.
Don't see how it could be anymore clearer than that.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

It's not part of the GOLF COURSE (that is a thing in and of it's self). I do agree that It may be part of the golf course and proshop's and country club's property. I have never read any rules that say you can't walk on this type of area and really don't think there are any in writing or "the experts" would have posted them for which I anxiously are awaiting.

And why should I believe what that guy said was authorized by anyone else except himself ? Been doing that for years and no one has ever complained. Also, while it may be a part of the golf course area in general it is NOT a "golf course path" as it is nowhere near or on the golf course at ANY point along it. Most logical minds would think the "golf course path" in on THE GOLF COURSE. This is an "access" point as is the Morse MMP which is closer to the actual course entry.



OK, and what does that have to do with the price of peanuts on the open market?

Yes there are (like going north on the MMP around Stillwater which they just FIXED by taking down all the tall shrubbery) however the issue here isn't the tunnel at all as it has a mostly ignored stop sign it's the carts flying down the hill to continue up Morse and the carts coming up the hill to go up O'Dell. There is no safety area there except on top. Not a fun place to walk especially since I got clipped a number of years ago.



That's a bad anology. Go there and look at it. This course is down a large fenced embankment maybe 20 feet high and 50 yards away. One thing has nothing to do with the other. While it may be 100% true no person would logically think it not be permitted unless it was marked as such due to how it is located within the Mallory CC area.



YAY! FINALLY! Exactly my point.
.... I think well over 4 years doing that should have set a precedent of some sort.

In all honesty, I really admire your persistence. You are, of course, DEAD WRONG. Everyone on this thread has told you that you are wrong. The starter told you that you were wrong. Yet, you continue to try to justify trespassing based on such excuses as "I didn't know", or "What harm does it do?" or the best one "It isn't part of the golf course". If you think the MMP approaching the tunnel under Morse at that area is not safe to walk, then WALK ELSEWHERE, BUT NOT on private golf course property. Someone who blades a wedge to 9 of Caroline could conceivably hit you in the head with a golf ball while you are walking on the path.
PS: A golfer carrying a bag walking on that path has purchased a greens fee which means he has agreed to accept the risk inherit in the game. A pedestrian has not.

[dewilson58]

Looks like entitlement.

Smells like entitlement.

Probably tastes like entitlement.


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[JoMar]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

No, as I have no idea who or what or where they are and did ASK that question in my OP, who to contact. As I mention, we are not golfers.

That explains it all.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by JoMar

That explains it all.

Exactly. I wish I had said that instead of the hundreds of words I use to try and explain it.

[drcar]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE POST A LINK TO THESE "RULES" ??? They don't seem to exist in writing. I believe that when I see it in writing or on a posted sign THEN it is time to "move on." Everything else is just assumptions and quoting of "local rules."

Now you have seen the rules and where they are posted, time to "move on."

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

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PS: A golfer carrying a bag walking on that path has purchased a greens fee which means he has agreed to accept the risk inherit in the game. A pedestrian has not.

I was thinking of the Executive courses. (I'm not a golfer; don't know which courses are private and which are not). If this is not an Executive course and the golfer has somehow agreed to accept the risks then I do see the difference. (though I still would argue it's a technicality and not a good reason)

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I was thinking of the Executive courses. (I'm not a golfer; don't know which courses are private and which are not). If this is not an Executive course and the golfer has somehow agreed to accept the risks then I do see the difference. (though I still would argue it's a technicality and not a good reason)

OK. Mallory is a championship course. And with the huge numbers of lawyers out there today, I think the liability issue is more than a "technicality".

[EdFNJ]

/// Damn ... keep duplicating posts.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

From Golf in the Villages

Safety on the Course
• Golf courses are restricted to golfing traffic only.
• Please refrain from riding, biking, fishing, walking or
engaging in other recreational activities on the courses.
• Pets are not permitted on golf courses or practice facilities
at any time.
-------------------------------------
When you step off the MM into Mallary parking lot you are on golf course property.
Don't see how it could be anymore clearer than that.

Nice try. I actually agree with the specific statement. It says " Safety on the Course" "Golf courses are restricted to golfing traffic only" I am not within maybe 100 yards of the golf course or the paths the golfers use to play golf. So then what you are also saying is that we can't walk through the Mallory parking lot ? I don't see anyone playing golf on that "road/trail/driveway or whatever" OR in the Mallory parking lot. Sounds like "almost pregnant". Can't have it both ways. DEFINITELY would never go onto a (or the) GOLF COURSE.

[Mosells]

If you’re a paying player, you accept the risk. The course is not liable, the person who causes the personal injury may be liable.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

OK. Mallory is a championship course. And with the huge numbers of lawyers out there today, I think the liability issue is more than a "technicality".

No more dangerous than eating the food in Mallory CC or getting out of one's car in their parking lot. Lawyers? All they have are "opinions" unless there has been a previous case precedent for the same thing. Maybe I'll get myself arrested!

To quote a famous golfer:

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

Nice try. I actually agree with the specific statement. It says " Safety on the Course" "Golf courses are restricted to golfing traffic only" I am not within maybe 100 yards of the golf course or the paths the golfers use to play golf. So then what you are also saying is that we can't walk through the Mallory parking lot ? I don't see anyone playing golf on that "road/trail/driveway or whatever" OR in the Mallory parking lot. Sounds like "almost pregnant". Can't have it both ways. DEFINITELY would never go onto a (or the) GOLF COURSE.

Still???? Over the years I've enjoyed your posts, and while we don't always agree, we agree often enough. However, why can't you see that you are dying on this hill? (Mallory Hill). That path is a golf cart path, not a "whatever". It is entirely on golf course property, and it is within 3 yards of 9 of Caroline. And since you don't play golf, you can't be expected to know that no one has to play golf on a cart path or parking lot (It's a free drop 1 club length from the nearest point of relief no closer to the hole) Please accept what everyone is telling you----when you are on that cart path, YOU ARE on the golf course.