[shaw8700@outlook.com]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The vast majority of so-called "solar powered" gas carts, simply use solar panels to help charge the batteries. I'm not aware of any carts that operate with "direct solar" ... doesn't seem practical to me.

PowerDrive Golf Car Solar Panels

We had one of the solar powered electric carts at our last place and were wondering why it isn’t sold here?

[FloridaGuy66]

Originally Posted by gorillarick

All the lithium batteries I'm aware of (for golf carts) are Lithium Iron Phosphate LiFePO4 or LFP for short, much safer and forgiving than Lithium ion.

This is correct. Definitely impossible that this fire was with one of the newer LiFePO4 batteries.

I wish that the media that likes to jump all over anything electric would actually point out that this won't happen with the newer batteries.

[Calisport]

It does look like an older model so wonder why it was Lithium.

[FloridaGuy66]

Originally Posted by Calisport

It does look like an older model so wonder why it was Lithium.

Older models will usually have either:

-Lead flooded deep cycle batteries (sort've like car batteries but better for handling being charged over and over).

-Lithium Ion batteries. The ones that can have a spontaneous fire that goes out of control. Not in most new electric carts, but they are still in Teslas

-Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries aka (LiFePo batteries). This are not flammable at all and are what all quality golf carts are using now for the past few years

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by gorillarick

Forensics - not much to go on there. Owner's testimony and records.

Solar carts - you can buy a canopy with photoelectric cells on them, but it is not much more than a trickle charger. Would keep your cart fully charged if you left it in the sun while on vacation.
In Florida that would be cooking your cart !

All the lithium batteries I'm aware of (for golf carts) are Lithium Iron Phosphate LiFePO4 or LFP for short, much safer and forgiving than Lithium ion.
But, also from what I know all LFP are from you know where. Some are assembled in the US, but cells are from you know where.
Same with electric bikes - correct me if I'm wrong; not such an expert those.

I would like to know the brand of golf cart, conversion or OEM or replacement for the OEM batteries, the brand of the batteries ???

EZGO uses NMC (Samsung) battery chemistry.
Club Car uses NCA battery chemistry (I think).
All others I know of use LFP battery chemistry.

All are lithium ion. China made all the LFP batteries since they own the patents...Which have recently expired.

Safest is LFP...then NMC...then NCA. NCA is a fragile lattice structure and LFP is very strong. I have a 150ah LFP (EVE) pack I put together myself. I charge at 0.1C to 3.5V/cell to avoid thermal runaway. I was going to up the voltage a bit but now I am not

[MorTech]

It appears to be a Club Car. Don't know if the lithium batteries were OEM...I doubt it.

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by Calisport

It does look like an older model so wonder why it was Lithium.

Yup.

[DrMack]

Thankfully nobody was hurt. These lithium batteries are very dangerous. The government needs to get involved and ban them until something can be figured out.

[VAtoFLA]

Originally Posted by DrMack

Thankfully nobody was hurt. These lithium batteries are very dangerous. The government needs to get involved and ban them until something can be figured out.

This gas fire (from page 1) looks pretty dangerous too. Are you recommending the same for that volatile liquid or are you thinking the owners need to manage their use better or differently? Same would go for volatile batteries.

I drive Yamaha Gas, but the electric segment has come a long way in a short time. We'll see what the next one is. To each their own.

[La lamy]

Originally Posted by mrprez

over near sarasota yesterday.

whoa!!!

[rsmurano]

I had a LifePo battery for my RC sailboat and they recommended that I charge the battery in a special bag in case a fire got started during charging.

Lifepo batteries are indeed flammable under these situations:

Overcharging
Applying too much current to a battery can cause it to overheat and catch fire

Extreme temperatures
Freezing or extremely hot weather can cause a battery to release a large amount of energy and explode

Improper installation
Connecting batteries with different resistances can cause them to overheat and burn

There was a big push for everybody to buy electric everything. Those days are gone. Lithium golf carts cost more and are more expensive to maintain over the life of the cart. I’m including the many thousands of $$$ for new lithium batteries in 7-8 years and the expense of dumping these batteries as toxic waste

[Remembergoldenrule]

Originally Posted by Mrprez

Over near Sarasota yesterday.

I hope no one was hurt!

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Yikes, not good. Why anyone wouldn’t want a gas Yamaha is beyond me? Just walk around a town square during a busy time and take inventory of what’s the best.

That means McDonald's makes the best burger.

[Remembergoldenrule]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I posted this a few days ago, but it was apparently deleted.

Possibly, because it came from the newspaper that shouldn't be named (although, the TOTV engagement farming bot, posted it on FaceBook).

I'm re-posting, because people seem curious about what kind of car it was.

Looks fairly clear, it was a gasoline fine.

I can’t believe someone on phone would walk that close to a burning vehicle!

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by DrMack

Thankfully nobody was hurt. These lithium batteries are very dangerous. The government needs to get involved and ban them until something can be figured out.

Unlike gasoline, which is 100% safe and could never catch fire or explode.