[jimmy o]

Originally Posted by Mrprez

Over near Sarasota yesterday.

reminds me when the Cisco Kid and Poncho were riding the trail and Cisco said "Oh Poncho look, the church, she's on fire". Poncho replied "Holy Smoke".

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66

All LiFePO batteries have a battery management system integrated into the battery. In virtually all cases , this includes overcharge protection, reverse polarity protection, overheating protection, etc.

Did not answer the question. How does it prevent a short across the terminals from causing sudden and massive amounts of heat?

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by tjdmlhw

The article in the paper said that it was a Lithium Cart and that the fire department had to use a smother blanket to put the fire out.

That was a subsequent story.

The original story that showed the vehicle engulfed in flames, had no information what sort of power the cart had.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Within the next 5 years, it will be against the rules to bring a new gasoline powered golf cart into The Villages, if the marketplace doesn't eliminate them ever sooner.

Originally Posted by MplsPete

Why?

The Villages is the only "golf cart community" I know of, that allows gasoline powered carts. OTOTW doesn't, Lakewood Ranch doesn't, Southern Hills Plantation doesn't. You'd be hard-pressed to find any community built in the last 20 years, that allows gas carts.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The Villages is the only "golf cart community" I know of, that allows gasoline powered carts. OTOTW doesn't, Lakewood Ranch doesn't, Southern Hills Plantation doesn't. You'd be hard-pressed to find any community built in the last 20 years, that allows gas carts.

The People's Republic of Kalifornia outlawed sales/purchase of them a couple decades ago, FWIW.

[PoolBrews]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

Did not answer the question. How does it prevent a short across the terminals from causing sudden and massive amounts of heat?

Why is this even a question? My LifeP04 battery is as wide as the cart, and the terminals are on opposite sides of the battery. How would you ever get a short here?

And before you bring up something else equally invalid - if you short the terminals on a 12v battery on a gas cart (which are only 10" apart), the battery can explode or spark, causing the gas tank to catch fire and explode. Although it's a very remote possibility, it still has a greater chance of occurring than your scenario.

Neither scenario is ever likely to occur, and should not factor into anyone's decision.

I'm not advocating for gas or electric - both work fine. I'm just trying to get rid of mis-information, myths, and rumors so that folks can actually make an informed decision when purchasing.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The Villages is the only "golf cart community" I know of, that allows gasoline powered carts. OTOTW doesn't, Lakewood Ranch doesn't, Southern Hills Plantation doesn't. You'd be hard-pressed to find any community built in the last 20 years, that allows gas carts.

Honestly, it’s because The Villages is the only retirement community large enough to have golf cart access to gas stations.

They don’t want retirees going to Sunoco with gas cans, and driving them back to the house.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66

All LiFePO batteries have a battery management system integrated into the battery. In virtually all cases , this includes overcharge protection, reverse polarity protection, overheating protection, etc.

Air bags was supposed to be next best thing also? Nothing fool proof.

[MorTech]

With RC cars and boats as well as cell phones, you are charging the battery at high maximum rates (1-4C) to save on time. This is far more dangerous than golf carts charging at 0.15C. Charging at those high rates seriously degrades the battery life. The risk of thermal runaway is near zero when charging at 0.2C and below. I end my charge at 3.5V because the heat generated from 3.5V to 3.65V (max LFP cell voltage) is at its highest and the charge capacity gain is very small and the time it takes is higher...It ain't worth it.

What are the odds of a lithium cell phone exploding when being charged at 1C? Anyone ever have that happen to them yet? Fast charging is really only safe between 25% and 80% state of charge.

I doubt TV will ever outlaw gas carts. So what? To each their own. Hopefully 314ah carts will become available soon...That will be about 120 miles per charge. Maybe sodium ion batteries will replace lithium in the future.

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The Villages is the only "golf cart community" I know of, that allows gasoline powered carts. OTOTW doesn't, Lakewood Ranch doesn't, Southern Hills Plantation doesn't. You'd be hard-pressed to find any community built in the last 20 years, that allows gas carts.

The difference....The Villages is massive.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by MorTech

The difference....The Villages is massive.

So isn't the USA, yet people are driving around with electric cars.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

So isn't the USA, yet people are driving around with electric cars.

They are but not far yet

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

So isn't the USA, yet people are driving around with electric cars.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

They are but not far yet

I'm from an advocate of EV's, but the situation is improving. I have a friend who drives his Tesla to FL & back, twice a year from NH. He can charge it, in about the same time it takes me to make a fuel stop and grab a cup of coffee.

The real drawbacks to EV's, is simply the power-grid. Until we get back to producing electric power with nuclear plants, we just won't be able to supply the electricity. I just had a large residential project in MA gutted, because NationalGrid says they can't deliver sufficient power for the development.

[UpNorth]

Originally Posted by MorTech

The difference....The Villages is massive.

And if you had to drive it in a golf cart (gas or electric), you will know what "massive" feels like.

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

So isn't the USA, yet people are driving around with electric cars.

Just wait until TV expands down to Havana Cuba Maybe 10 years(?) That golf cart bridge from Key West to Havana is going to take a 250ah battery minimum